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Vertical Loopers without OTSR

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Posted:
12/8/17 at
10:06:31 AM

I've seen coasters that feature corkscrew and other twisting inversions that don't have OTSR--namely those by RMC. I was just wondering, however; does anyone here know of any vertically-looping coasters without OTSR? More specifically, ones where the seats don't have headrests.

Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by skc2000 at 12/9/17 8:44:04 PM
there are a couple of looping coasters that dont have OTSRS mainly

sooper dooper looper at hersehy park

mindbender at six flags over georgia

shockwave at six flags over texas

montezoomas revenge at knotts berry farm

there are probably a few more but these are the ones that i can think of the top of my head.

skc2000

* This post was modified at 12/9/17 8:46:32 PM *

Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by frontrow frontrow Profile at 12/9/17 9:31:48 PM
Son of Beast had a vertical loop and only a lap bar as well.
Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by SirWillow SirWillow Profile at 12/10/17 3:12:17 PM
You forgot the original!

Revolution at SFMM. Ran many years without otsr's. Added them later on, and a couple of years ago got rid of them again.

Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by skc2000 at 12/10/17 11:27:43 PM
In addition to the revolution at six flags magic mountain there are several others that I also forgot about mainly

colossal fire dragon at lagoon near salt lake city

the 2 mr freeze coasters at six flags over texas & six flags st louis

the texas tornado at wonderland in amarilo texas

i forgot the name of the park or the coaster but the one at that small park in phoenix arizona

the one at adventureland in altoona iowa(forgot the name)

plus several that are not around anymore that i happened to ride when they were around mainly

son of beast at kings island

viper & greezed lightning both at six flags astroworld

viper at six flags over georgia

greezed lightning at californias great america

lazer coaster at dorney park

& even though i never had a chance to do them the 3 schwartzkopf shuttle loops at kennywood, kings dominion & carowinds & the red devil at ghost town in the sky in north carolina.

there might be a few more but these are the ones that i can think of at this time now.

skc2000

Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by skc2000 at 12/11/17 1:16:14 AM
oops i think i made a little mistake.The dragon coaster at adventureland in altoona iowa does have OTSRS.& the red devil roller coaster at ghost town in the sky in north carolina is SBNO(standing but not operating).

Also the chiller at six flags great adventures had lapbars only part of the time from 2001 & 2002.

skc2000

Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by Link Link Profile at 12/11/17 1:36:36 AM
I see that there are quite a few Schwarzkopf models listed here that are vertical loopers with only lap bars.

Given that; I notice that RMC seats conversely don't have headrests. That's really where my curiosity lies.

My supposition is this: For vertical loops, the rider's neck probably requires more reinforcement.

Thanks for the referrals, folks!
Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 12/13/17 6:49:45 AM
While they do have headrests, the newer Euro-Fighters / Infinity Coasters don't have OTSR.
Dare Devil Dive
Hydrus
Iron Shark
Monster
Even the teasers for HangTime and Tantrum don't show OTSR. I'm not sure about the one for the new Nickelodeon park.
Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by Eric_Gieszl Eric_Gieszl Profile at 12/15/17 11:52:59 AM
Scorpion at Busch Gardens Tampa and Silver Bullet at Frontier City are two more.
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Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by Coastergenius100 at 12/26/17 3:08:22 PM
On the contrary, I believe that most coasters that only have pure vertical loops only have the lapbars, unless the parks are very paranoid and for some reason demand the extra unnecessary safety. But really, I think that coasters that only have vertical loops are kind of relics of the past. They were popular elements before computers allowed custom, freeform designs, but these days, you don't need those stock elements. These days, other elements have gotten more appealing.

But really, if you only had vertical loops, from a physics standpoint, there's 0 reason to have OTSR's. The G forces actually push you into your seat, you're safer in the loop than anywhere else (except for the possible head trauma from the G's).

Re: Vertical Loopers without OTSR by Link Link Profile at 12/26/17 3:17:38 PM
Coastergenius100 said:

On the contrary, I believe that most coasters that only have pure vertical loops only have the lapbars, unless the parks are very paranoid and for some reason demand the extra unnecessary safety. But really, I think that coasters that only have vertical loops are kind of relics of the past. They were popular elements before computers allowed custom, freeform designs, but these days, you don't need those stock elements. These days, other elements have gotten more appealing.


But really, if you only had vertical loops, from a physics standpoint, there's 0 reason to have OTSR's. The G forces actually push you into your seat, you're safer in the loop than anywhere else (except for the possible head trauma from the G's).


Understood!

Meanwhile, my supposition is that all vertical loopers will have seats with headrests to support the rider's neck. So far, those listed in this thread follow suit. I have yet to see/find an exception, other than the twisting, non-vertical loopers created by RMC.