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The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters

Posted: 9/24/17 at 8:30:01 PM
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Since I don't really have too many people to share my love of coasters with and my opinions figured it'd go here. These opinions are only based on the few coasters I've ridden.
1. Twister is the better coaster at Knoebels, personally I found Phoenix to be underwhelming. The only good part was the restraints.
2. Sky rush is not the best coaster at Hershey, Storm Runner is
3. Alpengeist is the best B&M invert. Even compared to POVs I've seen
4. Boomerangs are actually so much fun
Okay thats it I think

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by frontrow frontrow Profile at 9/25/17 9:34:23 AM
acookie821 said:

Since I don't really have too many people to share my love of coasters with and my opinions figured it'd go here. These opinions are only based on the few coasters I've ridden.
1. Twister is the better coaster at Knoebels, personally I found Phoenix to be underwhelming. The only good part was the restraints.
2. Sky rush is not the best coaster at Hershey, Storm Runner is
3. Alpengeist is the best B&M invert. Even compared to POVs I've seen
4. Boomerangs are actually so much fun
Okay thats it I think

I actually know several enthusiasts who have Twister ranked higher than Phoenix. I myself love Phoenix, but think both coasters are very good.

Skyrush is my #2 favorite steel coaster. In fact if I know it won't be running, I won't visit Hershey. I do agree that Storm Runner is a very underrated coaster. We try to get as many rides as possible on Skyrush, Storm Runner, and Lightning Racer each time we visit. Those are my favorite 3 coasters at Hershey.

I love Alpengeist. The only thing about Alpengeist is that it's almost too forceful for me. I feel the positive G forces in my legs so much, that it feels like I'm riding a Stand up coaster. I ride Alpengeist multiple times each visit, but I just can't marathon it. After 2 rides is row, I have to take a break.

I also find Boomerang Coasters very fun, especially going backwards through the coarse.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by acookie821 acookie821 Profile at 9/25/17 9:17:42 PM
I definitely agree Phoenix is good, just I cant even say it is in my top 5.
And I do have to agree with you on Alpengeist. I only got to ride it twice, but I don't think I would have a third time right away anyways.
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by SirWillow SirWillow Profile at 9/26/17 11:11:05 AM
Here's one back in the day that I used to get yelled at a lot for:

Millenium Force wasn't a top 3 coaster. I actually had Goliath at SFMM almost equal to it. It was worse when I told people I liked Blue Streak as much as I liked MF. :-P

Now: I like the New Texas Giant better than Lightning Rod.

I haven't been to Hershey, so I can't comment on that one. I do know a lot of people who like boomers. I don't mind them since I've learned how to ride without smashing my head. Definitely like them when they have the new padded restraints (been on one with those)

While I love Phoenix, I've known a few that shared your love for Twister, which was also excellent. Man, has it really been 16 years since I was there last? :-(

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by MABrider MABrider Profile at 9/26/17 4:07:41 PM
I have yet to visit Texas.

SirWillow said:

Now: I like the New Texas Giant better than Lightning Rod.

I recently wrote elsewhere the same thing about Renegade (Valleyfair) vs Lightning Rod. I had never been to Valleyfair. At the ACE Summer Conference, August 20 this year, Renegade blew me away. Daytime rides were sensational, and then the nighttime ERT riding was off the charts good.
My opinion was not influenced by the fact that Renegade was actually running all day.

Side note: learned that day that Valleyfair is not removing Excalibur. They have "no current plans" to do so. Say what you might about that, I thought it was a decent ride, I had heard it wasn't very good.

Mike B.
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by JacobTheCoasterhead JacobTheCoasterhead Profile at 10/18/17 4:25:51 PM
Oh, that’s good that they’re not removing Excalibur, I’m planning a 2018 Valleyfair trip and need that credit!

Also, I think that Vekoma SLCs aren’t that bad. The one at my home park, Mind Eraser at Elitch Gardens, is actually quite fun if you know when to lean forward and lean back! If that’s not an unpopular opinion, then you tell me what is!

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 10/19/17 2:36:55 AM
Back in late August (8/27/17), I went on a trip up in the Northeast to Playland Park (along with SFNE, Quassy, and Lake Compounce a day earlier; thought about doing a belated TR, probably won't though).

I rode Super Flight, the Zamperla Volare. I heard nothing but bad things about this coaster model (about how rough it is), but got off pleasantly surprised on how pretty smooth it was. With it's sub 30MPH speed, it was tame enough to not be a headbanger.

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Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 10/19/17 2:48:30 AM
Superman(SFNE) was riding very sluggish when I went on 8/26/17. Approaching Superman, it looked very impressive, with it's sprawling layout going underneath the path into the tunnel, and just enveloping that area.

I rode it expecting some ejector air, but got mediocre floater air instead; I guess that it's over the hill from it's former airtimeyness, which was lauded. Wicked Cyclone definitely delivered though; inversions and ejector airtime galore, from start to finish! WC is easily the best coaster in the park IMO.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 10/19/17 3:15:41 AM
I wasn't too wild about Boulder Dash. I got off trying to figure out what just happened when I went on (in 8/26/17) and not really in a good way.

It had it's moments, no doubt, with it's very unique tree shrouded, mountainside layout and it's double ups/ downs etc. For me, is it anywhere near Voyage, El Toro(which I'm a lil critical of), Outlaw Run, Dania Beach Hurricane(RIP) or SOB(I know, I'm weird) no way!

It maybe one of those coasters that I have to ride more times to get a feel of, but I doubt if my opinion change on it. I actually heard cheers with people unloading from Wildcat (which I was lucky to ride, with it haphazardly breaking down all that week, and even that day), and none from Boulder Dash. Phobia Phear Coaster (my first Skyrocket II) was awesome!

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 10/19/17 6:44:53 AM
1. Phoenix is way better than Twister.
2. Skyrush has painful restraints and painful airtime. Storm Runner, Fahrenheit, Lightning Racer(s), and Comet are all better.
3. Patriot and Talon beat out Alpengeist as the best B&M inverts but just bearly. Banshee is just ok.
4. I only ride Boomerangs for credit. (I may not have very many left in North America that I haven't ridden. Good.)

My unpopular opinions are:
1. El Toro is not THAT good. The airtime is very short lived and can be painful.
2. Because the restraints are painful on the neck or the seats are uncomfortable, some Intamins aren't THAT good. Storm Runner and Fahrenheit are better than they were. Maverick's seats hurt my butt. Kingda Ka's and Cheetah Hunt's restraints have to go !
3. There are some Vekoma SLC's that wouldn't kill you. Gauntlet, Fly the Great Nor'Easter, T3, and Twisted Typhoon are actually pretty good.

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Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by SirWillow SirWillow Profile at 10/19/17 12:30:18 PM
theRock-steel said:

3. Patriot and Talon beat out Alpengeist as the best B&M inverts but just bearly. Banshee is just ok.

Don't know if you've been on it, but Montu beats out all of those for best invert. I really miss riding Montu.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by acookie821 acookie821 Profile at 10/19/17 1:09:13 PM
Super flight was actually my first "major" steel coaster! It was what encouraged me to go on an actual inverting coaster. Playland is my home park and the Dragon Coaster will always have a special place in my heart. I do have to agree Super flight is not as bad as people say it is. Its a good coaster for a small park like Playland. Plus there are not too many operating in the US or around the world to my knowledge so its a cool credit.

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Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 10/19/17 11:05:02 PM
SirWillow said:

Don't know if you've been on it, but Montu beats out all of those for best invert. I really miss riding Montu.

I live just south of Orlando and have a SeaWorld / Busch Gardens annual pass. Yes, Montu is pretty good too. This is my B&M invert list in order:
Patriot
Talon
Alpengeist
Afterburn
MONTU
Banshee
Flight Deck
Great Bear
Batman Clones
Dragon Challenge
Raptor
Silver Bullet

As a group, inverts are one of the best types of steel coasters.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by frontrow frontrow Profile at 10/20/17 12:23:15 AM
I think the most overrated wooden coaster is The Beast at Kings Island, and the most overrated steel coaster is Phantoms Revenge at Kennywood. Neither is in my top 25 favorite wooden or steel coasters. I know these 2 coasters have a huge fan base, but I find both of them very underwhelming.
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 10/20/17 2:34:28 AM
I need to go to Kennywood again. My memory is not real sharp about Phantom's Revenge, but I don't believe that I went totally crazy for it last time.
Beast is nothing. The first lift hill takes way too long, and the second completely kills the pacing. The back section is very flat but is still able to be very rough.
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by NotSo NotSo Profile at 10/20/17 11:32:47 AM
My unpopular opinion would be:

I thought Holiday World was a crappy park. Yes, great woodies, but horribly slow operations. And yucky food.

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Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by frontrow frontrow Profile at 10/20/17 4:42:42 PM
NotSo said:

My unpopular opinion would be:


I thought Holiday World was a crappy park. Yes, great woodies, but horribly slow operations. And yucky food.

I actually agree that Holiday World has some of the slowest and worse operations of any park. Their food is terrible also. Employees used be very friendly and the park used to be very clean. Ever since Pat and Dan Koch left, it seems more corporate now, and lost some of its charm. I do really enjoy all 3 wooden coasters and Thunderbird.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 10/20/17 10:32:18 PM
Thunderation is my second favorite coaster at SDC (behind Outlaw Run) and easily my favorite mine train. I absolutely loved it!

Wildfire is a good coaster, but it screams the feeling of 'B&M complacency' (I love the rustic color scheme and the natural setting though).

Powderkeg is vastly overrated, and it the weirdest coaster I ever ridden. I'm aware of it's transforming history from Buzzsaw Falls, but it seems like a Frankenstein coaster went awry.

From it's weird diagonal elevator, to the okay launch (no air over the hill) to the pointless curvy stretch to A LIFT HILL! a lift hill...To a used to be splash area, annndddd quickly back to the station...

I was rooting for this coaster so bad, but it literally failed to deliver anything besides an okay launch.

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Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 10/20/17 11:19:30 PM
acookie821 said:

Super flight was actually my first "major" steel coaster! It was what encouraged me to go on an actual inverting coaster. Playland is my home park and the Dragon Coaster will always have a special place in my heart. I do have to agree Super flight is not as bad as people say it is. Its a good coaster for a small park like Playland. Plus there are not too many operating in the US or around the world to my knowledge so its a cool credit.

I was very impressed with my first time Playland visit. The centerpiece flower garden is very beautiful. Playland is like a throwback to yesteryear with the simple and charming vendor stands, to it's classic rides, to the wonderful view of Long Island Sound.

The Dragon Coaster is great! It's all about that classic Dragon tunnel. The two dry dark rides are awesome (didn't ride Ye Old Mill because of the two rider policy). Sky Flyer is a fun thrill ride. I loved the pizza and freshly made cotton candy there. I'm glad that Playland has kept it's old school charm over all of those years.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 10/21/17 6:08:47 AM
Holiday World is not all that. Voyage is the only real good coaster. The other two woodens just beat me up. Thunderbird is not the best B&M wing. I prefer GateKeeper and Wild Eagle over that. Although X-Flight is not as good, even it has better theming than HW's. I guess that the water park is the big draw, but I don't really do them. In the end as a "family park", I like Knoebels more.

Powderkeg is UNDERrated. It was my favorite ride in that park. Outlaw Run kills my legs. Another RMC wooden, Goliath at SFGAM has better trains.

Playland is a good park. The larger wooden and the larger family coaster are real good for want they are. I wasn't able to spend enough time there because I was trapped trying to get out of New York City. I'm looking forward to going back sometime in the next couple of years.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by SirWillow SirWillow Profile at 10/21/17 10:02:32 PM
theRock-steel said:

I live just south of Orlando and have a SeaWorld / Busch Gardens annual pass. Yes, Montu is pretty good too. This is my B&M invert list in order:
Patriot
Talon
Alpengeist
Afterburn
MONTU
Banshee
Flight Deck
Great Bear
Batman Clones
Dragon Challenge
Raptor
Silver Bullet

As a group, inverts are one of the best types of steel coasters.

your rankings there would certainly put you in some unusual territory. :-) Montu that low, and Dragons down near the bottom? I know there's a lot of love for Raptor, but for me that head smashing turn into the midcourse kills it.

I enjoyed Patriot, but there's no way I'd put it above Montu or Dragons.

but that's what makes each of us unique. :-)

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 10/22/17 7:22:03 PM
Since Patriot and Talon are pretty much the same, we could say that I have Montu ranked number 4. Since the Dragons are not the same but the Batman clones are very much so, there are 8 different inverts below Montu. So where it's at is not bad, is it ?
Speaking of Dragons, I haven't ridden them in years. I believe that I have been to all the other parks with B&M inverts more recently than when I had a pass to Universal back in 2011. I actually did like the red one much more than most of the Batman clones and the blue one only a little less than the clones. I am thinking of putting all "defunct" rides on a completely different list because we will never get to ride them again. How can 10 year old memories compete with something that can be re-tracked or otherwise improved ?
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by Tomes at 10/23/17 1:23:02 AM
I kind of agree about Holiday World, the Voyage is the only good wooden ride there.

I think silver dollar city is way underrated - I loved how weird Powder Keg was, and it's the last compressed air launch coaster in the States, if I'm not mistaken. (I never did get to ride the XLC in Kings Dominion, back when it was operating)

I also think outlaw run is more fun than Goliath at SFGAm, despite the latter being taller and faster.

I recently had a a chance to visit Thorpe Park - it was nice but none of the rides compare to their US equivalents, except colossus and saw. Stealth is awesome but doesn't compare to TTD, KK or even Storm Runner in my opinion.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters *NM* by Cherylmorse at 2/2/18 7:37:48 AM
Batman Clones
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 2/8/18 6:38:17 AM
Yes, Holiday World is way overrated. I can see Voyage as being the only coaster there worth all the praise that it is getting. I do think that night time rides on some of those would be better, but on both trips there, I was trying to get to hotels somewhere a little far away.
Because of being weird, Powder Keg gets a lot of points for me. Small one-trick-ponies like HyperSonic XLC didn't do much for me. Regardless of how their launch works, just about any other coasters "that shoot you forward" were better. (You didn't miss much.)
Because of its more comfortable trains, Goliath is better than Outlaw Run. Also, because of its dive loop and zero-g stall, the big guy has hangtime that has yet to be beat.
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by Speedster Speedster Profile at 2/18/18 10:59:44 PM
My unpopular opinions:

Lightning Rod - very overrated. I only include it on my favorites list because of the uphill launch and the quad down. The middle of the ride is boring.
Banshee - overrated. Bigger and faster is not always better for inverts. Same goes for Alpengeist, which is the only invert that makes me slightly nauseated.
Goliath (SF Great Am) - overrated. A great first drop. But the rest of the ride is just OK, and it's too short.
The Voyage - great layout but OUCH. I removed it from my favorites list because it has become too rough. By the middle of my last ride on it, I was praying for it to end.
Nitro - very overrated. While it gets a "10" for smoothness, it gets a "1" for thrills.
Most overrated coaster type - winged coasters. They're nice and smooth, but I have yet to ride one that provides any kind of "wow" factor.
Tunnels on wood coasters - get rid of them. They add nothing but horrendous noise.
Most underrated coaster? Raptor! The best invert by far. Doesn't get the love it deserves. Afterburn is my second-favorite invert, also underrated.

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Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 2/25/18 4:16:02 AM
Banshee is overrated. At best, it is just ok. I ranked it somewhere in the middle of my list of inverts. Raptor is pure crap. It could be the worst invert.
Voyage gives great airtime, but by the end of the ride, its transitions and turns are bringing some pain. Holiday World and Kentucky Kingdom are not really worth the time.
Nitro doesn't do much for me. It and Raging Bull are good because they are hypers, but there is not much to get thrilled about. The two Ride Of Steels at Darien Lake and Six Flags America don't offer much. Although Goliath is a little better than Titan, the two Giovanolas give almost no airtime. Skyrush is too painful to really enjoy. The airtime is very short lived and the ride isn't long enough for a hyper.
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by NotSo NotSo Profile at 2/27/18 10:30:27 PM
I've been riding The Beast for like 35 years.
I love it, I hate it, I love it, I hate it...


I do love Kings Island. When we were on family trips in the late 80s early 90s, my dad would always say "we only come here because of The Beast.."

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Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 3/2/18 11:35:44 PM
Keep 'em coming guys! Whether I agree or disagree with your coaster opinion, I love outspoken commentary.

I have some more...

Many GCI coasters feel the same (similar to many Beemers on the steel side). Around 100ft, very twisty, smooth, a couple of pops of air, crossovers and unders; Like B&M, they are quality coasters, but many feel the same (examples Apocalypse, Renegade, and KY Rumbler).

Lightning Racer(mainly because of the racing factor) and Thunderhead (very strong transition switches with air) are the most differing GCIs that I've experienced.

Excalibur is utter trash, one of the most painful coasters that I've ridden. It's a one hitter quitter. I can't say that I'll be chaining myself to that wood and steel torturous monstrosity if Valleyfair decides to tear it down.

Wild Thing is underrated, and my favorite older era hyper, and favorite in the park. It has nice air, the helix, the tunnel station run and smoothness.

Renegade is good, but like I said earlier, its in the realm of GCI complacency.

Will the RMC Raptors live up to the hype? TBH, I'll be surprised if they do. That being said, everything that they (RMC) touch seem to turn into gold.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by NotSo NotSo Profile at 3/3/18 2:37:28 PM
I like this thread too OverBanked. Nice to just throw opinions out there and not be judged by them.

Cool topic!

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters *NM* by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 3/3/18 8:11:46 PM
^^^Well said!
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters *NM* by NotSo NotSo Profile at 3/4/18 1:40:34 AM
Maverick's seats are stupid. Who wants to sit on that, and for such an intense ride? Horrible.

Cheetah Hunt too, cmon really??

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters *NM* by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 3/6/18 5:43:47 AM
Many Intamins in general have painful restraints and/or seats. It is good that Maverick just got the new soft OTSR's but where your butt is feels wrong.
Don't even get me started on Cheetah Hunt. The restraints hurt the whole time, and kill any chance of me enjoying the airtime.
Avatar Airbender, El Toro, Kingda Ka, and, Skyrush all have "problems" in similar ways that make the rides painful when they don't need to be. I was told that Superman the Ride at SFNE has terrible cars, but since I wasn't able to ride it, I don't know myself.
On the other hand, Fahrenheit, Intimidator 305, Top Thrill Dragster, and Xcelerator all have great restraints that make the experiences better than they could have been.
Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by str8edgeskater at 3/13/18 3:18:25 AM
My unpopular opinions:

1. I loved Gatekeeper far more than Maverick (but they're both great).
2. I enjoy Boomerangs.
3. Batman clones are headbangers for me, so I don't like them.
4. To add confusion to that last one, I enjoyed the 1 Vekoma SLC I've ridden (Gauntlet). No headbanging.
5. I enjoy "forceless" coasters almost as much as the forceful ones.

Re: The Most Unpopular Opinions of Roller Coasters by theRock-steel theRock-steel Profile at 3/15/18 6:10:42 AM
There are two Batman inverted clones that I like better than all the others: the first one at Six Flags Great America and Vampire at La Ronde. Great White at SeaWorld San Antonio has become really painful, so that is by far the worst. I say that all the others in North America have seemed just about the same.
All Vekoma SLC's are NOT created equal. Because of changes to the restraints and/or tracks, there are better ones. In order, Gauntlet, Fly the Great Nor'Easter, and T3 are better. (You can actually ride these, LOL.) These are just below the same ranking as the "normal" B&M Batmans. I have learned how to ride the other SLC's without getting hurt. If I have the time, I'll give them one other try. I'm not a cry baby, so I don't care one way or another.
Boomerangs are generally all crap too. Sidewinder at Hershey seemed a little better. If I am in the mood, I'll ride any of the others, but only once.