Classic Coasters

> What is everyones favorite classic coaster? I mean what do
> you think is a classic coaster? What new coaster do you
> think will be come a classic in a few years? What coasters
> do you guys think really is a landmark or that started an
> era? What coasters will last the longest? And what parks
> hold the most classic coasters?

> Keep it real - SARCM701

Cyclone, Coney Island New York. Almost any pre Kings Island Racer PTC.

Chuck

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> What is everyones favorite classic coaster? I mean what do
> you think is a classic coaster? What new coaster do you
> think will be come a classic in a few years? What coasters
> do you guys think really is a landmark or that started an
> era? What coasters will last the longest? And what parks
> hold the most classic coasters?

> Keep it real - SARCM701

Tough to find classics as defined by ACE.
Anything new will never be classic as defined by ACE.
Too many safety/legal concerns these days, so individual lapbars, seat dividers are here to stay. And those horrible high-backs...ugh!

Anyway, some of the best coasters are not classics by the ACE definiton. But some provide classic, not cutting edge, thrills nevertheless. Phoenix comes to mind for me. Then again, Phoenix always comes to my mind! The only thing keeping it off of ACE's classics list is the seat dividers.

Mike B.

I never understood what their objection to seat dividers is. How do they detract from the ride at all?

> Anyway, some of the best coasters are not classics by the
> ACE definiton. But some provide classic, not cutting edge,
> thrills nevertheless. Phoenix comes to mind for me. Then
> again, Phoenix always comes to my mind!

I'd say Raven at HW could be described as a modern classic.

Phoenix at Knoebels is one great classic, and to a lesser degree Comet at HP.

> I never understood what their objection to seat dividers
> is. How do they detract from the ride at all?

I would rather trade bumps person next to me. You know, in a fun "give and take" manner.

And lovers of airtime will relate to having landed on top of a divider or two! Ouch.

I note that some newer dividers are improved by not being completely solid where the side of it would be pressing against the area of my pants pocket. So anything in my pocket is not pressed hard against my leg (like a set of keys, or cell phone). A subtle difference, but very effective for improving my personal enjoyment of that ride. Off hand, I can't remember which coasters have that.

Also, without dividers, if you are sitting alone...!
That's a different kind of, but is much, fun!

Mike B.

> I never understood what their objection to seat dividers
> is. How do they detract from the ride at all?

>

Go ride Big Dipper at Geauga Lake, Then ask that question again.

I'd love to ride COrnball Express without dividers. Sadly, It will never happen.

Chuck

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As far as coasters i've been on, the one I think of as being the most "classic" would be Six Flags America's Wild One. It's just so old, and I know it was modified a bit, but it's really got just such a "classic" feel to it all around anyway.

Cedar Point's Blue Streak and Hersheypark's Comet also come to mind. These are just out of the ride's i've been on.

I think a real classic coaster, though not tall or that fast is The Runaway Train at SFGAdv. It has been there pretty much since GADV was open. And it still provides a good ride for everyone.

> I note that some newer dividers are improved by not being
> completely solid where the side of it would be pressing
> against the area of my pants pocket. So anything in my
> pocket is not pressed hard against my leg (like a set of
> keys, or cell phone). A subtle difference, but very
> effective for improving my personal enjoyment of that ride.
> Off hand, I can't remember which coasters have that.

Voyage has this feature, as do most PTC's coming off the assembly line these days. After touring PTC this summer and talking with Bill Dauphinee, it seems as though this will become a standard feature. He blamed it on "the McDonald's phenomenon" with a wink.

I would have to say that the Schwarzcopf(SP) shuttle loops are classics. I love them. They're too short, but oh so much fun.

-Josh

> What is everyones favorite classic coaster? I mean what do
> you think is a classic coaster? What new coaster do you
> think will be come a classic in a few years? What coasters
> do you guys think really is a landmark or that started an
> era? What coasters will last the longest? And what parks
> hold the most classic coasters?

> Keep it real - SARCM701

I was really suppried when I rode the classic Leap the Dips. I thought it would be rough and boring considering its age compared to the advanced coasters of current times we are customed to. It was actually like a fun trip back in time.

I came across this thread from a google search...
I have to say my favorite classic by far is Conneaut Lake Park's Blue Streak with the NAD trains!

Yes I have ridden Cedar Point's when it was still classic, and Conneaut Lake Park's Blue Streak with the rebuilt original trains, but the air in the back seat of the NAD trains was just awsome!!!

Blue Streak

The Cyclone - Coney Island, NY.

The Commet - Hershey Park

i got a million coasters come to mind on that question but honestly on types of rollercoaster its gotta be any old dueling coasters but to answer the question for single coaster theres only 4 classic's that are old and still awesome.

Comet at Hersheypark
Phoenix at Knoebels
Cyclone at some area in new york
Texas Giant i think its called at SFOT

as for a hand of new era just dont make the cut the wooden rollercoast has been and will forever be the best type

> >
> Cyclone at some area in new york
>
It's called Coney Island..been around for awhile.

Mike

thankyou i forgot the name of the place

> thankyou i forgot the name of the place
>
It was also noted by CoasterFanatic(Chuck) earlier in this thread in response to the original post.

Mike

i dont have good memory

* This post was modified at 10/19/17 4:10:18 AM *

> I never understood what their objection to seat dividers
> is. How do they detract from the ride at all?

> I agree. The coasters I had been on with seat dividers were
> fine to me; I can see how seat dividers might cause a
> problem with someone with a large frame.

> What is ACE's fascination with junior woodies? That type of
> coaster doesn't even hafta be old (like Triple Hurricane at
> Cypress Gardens) and it's almost an automatic lock to be an
> ACE coaster classic.

I believe it's have to, not hafta. ;) Why they do this is because the junior woodies fit the recommendations for an ACE classic. No seat divider, a single lap bar, no headrest, and no seatbelt. Up until this year, I wonder if they considered Rollercoaster at Pleasure Beach Blackpool an ACE classic, seeing as it didn't even have any restraints.

Tim.

I would say one of my favorate classic coasters is the Thunderbolt. I worked at Kennywood a few years back. I rode the coaster many nights after close as a single rider and it was a awesome experience. Thunderbolt is a great example in that seat dividers would take away from this ride.

The Giant Dipper at Boardwalk in Santa Cruz

> The Giant Dipper at Boardwalk in Santa Cruz

Nice to see someone mention a favorite of mine down in Santa Cruz (I'll be heading there tomorrow after work for some coaster riding and the Tubes concert). The Giant Dipper is truly a classic coaster :-)

After my little northwest swing recently (hope to get a TR up in a couple days), I'd have to add Coaster at PNE Playland in Vancouver to the list of classics. It's the only Carl Phare woodie left, it runs with old-style trains of 8 single-row cars, it has a great layout, it's very well maintained, and Coaster dishes out tons of airtime. What an awesome ride!!!

Rick W - AirBear

I'm not sure how I feel about seat belts or seat dividers. The belts keep us safe but they increase loading time and may reduce airtime. The dividers keep us from hitting our partner, but I have got my ribs beat up pretty bad by hitting the top of them.

I don't know if it's a classic, but I really enjoyed that old woodie.