Gwazi at Busch Gardens Tampa Florida

> That ride is really cool best wooden
> rollercoaster I have ever rided on!!! Who has
> rided it and agrees with me?

I have ridden it, and have to say, it really is bad worst wooden rollercoaster I've ever ridden!!! It was very rough, I like rough, but this was rough to the point where I couldnt enjoy it. I wish I could rided more good wooden roller coasters :)

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> I have ridden it, and have to say, it really is
> bad worst wooden rollercoaster I've ever
> ridden!!! It was very rough, I like rough, but
> this was rough to the point where I couldnt enjoy
> it. I wish I could rided more good wooden roller
> coasters :)

I've heard a lot of hate about Gwazi and I think it is unjustified. I also enjoy Gwazi. It isn't the best woody I've ever been on but I've never ever, ever, not even once walked off that ride without having fun on it.

> That ride is really cool best wooden
> rollercoaster I have ever rided on!!! Who has
> rided it and agrees with me?

Where do you live?

I thought both sides of Gwazi were good, However I'll say this. It's far from a great wooden coaster. Get yourself to Holiday World, Indiana Beach, Dollywood, Visionland, Michigan's Adventure and ride a great one and you'll look at Gwazi differently.

Chuck

> I have ridden it, and have to say, it really is
> bad worst wooden rollercoaster I've ever
> ridden!!! It was very rough, I like rough, but
> this was rough to the point where I couldnt enjoy
> it. I wish I could rided more good wooden roller
> coasters :)

> I've heard a lot of hate about Gwazi and I think
> it is unjustified. I also enjoy Gwazi. It isn't
> the best woody I've ever been on but I've never
> ever, ever, not even once walked off that ride
> without having fun on it.

Actually I got there at 9am and rode both sides and the ride was pretty smooth and fun. I rode later in the afternoon and IT SUCKED. It vibrated so bad and it felt like every track pin was being hit. Both sides did this.

Love, Hate?
Ya know it could be true, Because thats exactly what I feel about it.
Chuck

> Love, Hate?
> Ya know it could be true, Because thats exactly
> what I feel about it.

LOL Chuck, I definitely have *mixed feelings* about the Gwaz...sure, he's my first-born wooden coaster so naturally I'll always have a soft-spot for him.

When Gwazi was so new the wood was still greenish and the "born-on date" stamp hadn't worn away, the ride was *THAT good*. Took a few months of break in for it to get that loosey-goosey feel of good (intense) wood, but ran like a dream from the get-go...

Well, time marched on, and the lack of any real *coaster people* maintaining Gwazi took it's toll, to the point where I was even mentioning GCI *disowning* the ride....yes, it had gotten *THAT bad*...

Then the Canadians (M-V) came in, and Gwazi was re-born, not unlike a Phoenix rising from the ashes...but the park still has "NO CLUE" about what to do to MAINTAIN the ride...not the track, and certainly not the trains. Good PTCs, but who knew ya gotta change the wheels every so often? ;)

The road wheels are left on virtually until they fall off, and that tends to beat the **** out of the trackwork....guess the Canadians could use another trip to FL anyhow, LOL...

My last rides were night rides, and I will say that Tiger was as intense as EVER on that night...Lion tends to be more floaty and *tamer*, but of course it was closed, since there's no good reason to run BOTH sides...;)

Bottom line, Gwazi has given me a few rides that were "near top 10 calibre", but more often than not the condition of the trains means the jostling and bouncing are *a bit much*, even for me....under the care of some experienced wooden coaster peeps (like, say, those from Miracle Strip) and I'm convinced that Gwazi would rank up where it should...IMO.

> I have ridden it, and have to say, it really is
> bad worst wooden rollercoaster I've ever
> ridden!!! It was very rough, I like rough, but
> this was rough to the point where I couldnt enjoy
> it. I wish I could rided more good wooden roller
> coasters :)

RT, your a sick puppy sometimes. Like I told you though, the difference from last year to this year was amazing. I liked it last year and I certainly agreed with you, Gary and rob that we needed not to ride it again that day. Is it a Jeckel and Heide Coaster? I certainly think so.

Is it a
> Jeckel and Heide Coaster? I certainly think so.

I have never once had a bad ride. My one beef with Gwazi has to do with their staff. Sometimes (most of the time) they are slower than slow. It takes an hour sometimes even when the line is on the ramp. Sometimes this gets me really mad but once I'm on the ride the fun takes over and I'm not angry.....until I get in line again to ride the other side.

hahaha...you're joking right? hahahaaaa...
...and so the good ol Gwazi debate lives on...

I have mixed feelings about it.

It's a coaster and so, I will keep riding it but...

I hate how slow they load - slower than slow
and the two coasters rarely duel.
..so I bet my experiences play into my negative feelings I have toward Gwazi, but even so, it's still low on my list.

As for the ride itself... don't ask me... I have no clue to how I feel about it. Sometimes it's alright and others, I ask myself why I put myself through such torture...

The lack of airtime stumps me-it's wood and should have plenty. That is the biggest con it has. The last time I rode it, the front gave the better ride than the back (I'm in the back row club). I am not sure if that was a fluke or the trick with Gwazi. I laughed on it. Usually I just sit there, while I get a headache and sharp pains shoot through my neck. I don't hate it but I don't love it...

It's def not the coolest or best wooden coaster I have been on.

Well...it's better than Twisted Sisters at least....

Michael W.

Dippin' Dots: The Only "Ice Cream" with the URC Seal of Approval!

> Well...it's better than Twisted Sisters at
> least....

> Michael W.
>

Not in my opinion :)

Chuck, who thinks TT has way more airtime and latterals than Gwazi and whats a wooden coaster supposed to be?

> Chuck, who thinks TT has way more airtime and
> latterals than Gwazi and whats a wooden coaster
> supposed to be?
>
A wooden coaster is supposed to be fun. It never says airtime is a must. I am a huge airtime fan, that is why my favorites all include woodies, and hypers but that statement is ridiculous. Here is another one.

"Steel coasters are supossed to go upside down. Millenium Force is way worse then Corkscrew it never goes upside down even once. Corkscrew has three."

> Chuck, who thinks TT has way more airtime and
> latterals than Gwazi and whats a wooden coaster
> supposed to be?
>
> A wooden coaster is supposed to be fun. It never
> says airtime is a must. I am a huge airtime fan,
> that is why my favorites all include woodies, and
> hypers but that statement is ridiculous. Here is
> another one.

> "Steel coasters are supossed to go upside
> down. Millenium Force is way worse then Corkscrew
> it never goes upside down even once. Corkscrew
> has three."

Ya know Dave, why don't you go back to ignoring my post and I'll do the same for you?

Oh, BTW, Weren't you banned? TWICE?

> Ya know Dave, why don't you go back to ignoring
> my post and I'll do the same for you?

> Oh, BTW, Weren't you banned? TWICE?

I need clarification. Was this one directed to me? If so, 1. I'm not Dave and I don't know who Dave is
2. I'm new to the boards been here maybe 3 weeks and have never been banned.

**If your post was not meant to me then I apoligize and please ignore this one**

I think the determining factor of what makes a wooden coaster good or bad, is really what park its in. Ever notice that some parks have very similar coasters, yet one is far better in one park, as oppose to the other? That's because one park KNOWS how to operate there ride & maitenance it, while the other park does not. That's really what its all about. An example would be Lightning Racer Vs Gwazi. Both by GCI, (I'm keeping in mind that they both have different style trains) but still one is far better & more maintained than the other. Its all about a park knowing how to take care of their woodie, I think, that makes or breaks it.

Notice also how the traditional parks that have been around for like 50-100 years know how to get it right with wood? But the newer SF, CF or Paramount parks really don't? Its all about the experience of the ride's caretakers that determine the woodies quality.

-DAN

> I think the determining factor of what makes a
> wooden coaster good or bad, is really what park
> its in. Ever notice that some parks have very
> similar coasters, yet one is far better in one
> park, as oppose to the other? That's because one
> park KNOWS how to operate there ride &
> maitenance it, while the other park does not.
> That's really what its all about. An example
> would be Lightning Racer Vs Gwazi. Both by GCI,
> (I'm keeping in mind that they both have
> different style trains) but still one is far
> better & more maintained than the other. Its
> all about a park knowing how to take care of
> their woodie, I think, that makes or breaks it.

> Notice also how the traditional parks that have
> been around for like 50-100 years know how to get
> it right with wood? But the newer SF, CF or
> Paramount parks really don't? Its all about the
> experience of the ride's caretakers that
> determine the woodies quality.

> -DAN

Honestly, I don't think there is a whole lot of truth to this other than some parks maintain better.

I say Gwazi's problem (Vibration) Is purelly caused by the trains and when the track heats up and swells a bit it gets much worse than early and late rides. I've felt it on every PTC equipted GCI I've ridden (Outlaw, Wildcat at Hershey, both Gwazis) It's not a factor in Millineum Flyer equipted trained coasters by GCI.

Also how do you explain VIper/American Eagle? One is fantastic and the other sucks and they are in the same park.

Chuck

Alright.. going to chime in here..

Gwazi-- I like the Jeckyl and Hyde explanation.. but more than usual its on the level of Mean Streak.. it's a harsh thing to say..

Anyways, I wanted to bring up Lightning Racer.. Lightning Racer has the *fun* factor to it, but I'd say the coaster itself is relatively forceless.. It's either that or I'm so stapled by the Flyer trains that it just feels that way. Still a good ride but I think both Gwazi and LR pale in comparison to Wildcat and Roar East.

Eric -- who hates when reruns are always the same episode

Gwazi seems to be a really tempermental beast. There are times that it delivers a great ride, and others that it delivers a rather rough one, though I've never had a horrible ride by any means. It tends to ride smoother in the front, and can really toss you around in the back if you're not ready for it. I'll also agree that the wheels don't seem to get changed as often as they should, and it certainly does seem like it could use some trackwork. And the operations on it are possibly the worst I've ever seen on a coaster (slow, buckle all the belts, then and only then drop the lap bars, check, check again, forget dueling...)

However, all that said, I still really enjoy riding it. It is a very rerideable coaster for me, and most times I'm at the park I'll get in at least a couple of rides (assuming the wife and kids let me or will go), which is a lot more than I can say for a bunch of other coasters out there (e.g. Psyclone, Grizzly, Mean Streak, SoB). So not great, but certainly not horrible either.

The ride your talking about is no fun it is really dumb I like Gwazi

> The last time I rode it, the front gave the
> better ride than the back (I'm in the back row
> club). I am not sure if that was a fluke or the
> trick with Gwazi.

I think it's a *trick* with GCI coasters....I'm def. a back-seat kinda person myself, but on the GCI's, kinda like the Schmeck's, the front is oftentimes better for airtime lovers...

> The last time I rode it, the front gave the
> better ride than the back (I'm in the back row
> club). I am not sure if that was a fluke or the
> trick with Gwazi.

> I think it's a *trick* with GCI coasters....I'm
> def. a back-seat kinda person myself, but on the
> GCI's, kinda like the Schmeck's, the front is
> oftentimes better for airtime lovers...

Sort of mentioned in my one comment, but that certainly seems to be the case with Gwazi. In my experience 1.2 and 2.1 seem to be the places to ride on it. I've had great rides almost every time I've been in those seats.

> Sort of mentioned in my one comment, but that
> certainly seems to be the case with Gwazi. In my
> experience 1.2 and 2.1 seem to be the places to
> ride on it. I've had great rides almost every
> time I've been in those seats.

From my limited experience with Gwazi I remember it being a much better ride in the front rows than the last. The same was true with Wildcat at Hersheypark. I hated the last car, but had a great front seat ride.

Eric

> Is it a
> Jeckel and Heide Coaster? I certainly think so.

> I have never once had a bad ride. My one beef with Gwazi
> has to do with their staff. Sometimes (most of the time)
> they are slower than slow. It takes an hour sometimes even
> when the line is on the ramp. Sometimes this gets me really
> mad but once I'm on the ride the fun takes over and I'm not
> angry.....until I get in line again to ride the other side.
>

First of all you have no Idea how hard it is to run a coaster my brother is an employee there and it is very stressfull

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> That ride is really cool best wooden
> rollercoaster I have ever rided on!!! Who has
> rided it and agrees with me?

> Where do you live?

> I thought both sides of Gwazi were good, However I'll say
> this. It's far from a great wooden coaster. Get yourself to
> Holiday World, Indiana Beach, Dollywood, Visionland,
> Michigan's Adventure and ride a great one and you'll look
> at Gwazi differently.

> Chuck
>

Gwazi is the best!!! Thats all there is to it!!!

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> I think the determining factor of what makes a wooden
> coaster good or bad, is really what park its in.

I agree with you to a degree but I think it's dangerous to generalize like this, at least for my particular tastes.

I certanily agree that traditional parks do a much better job of keeping their wooden coasters up to snuff, but for me maintenence of the ride, while an important factor, isn't the final determining aspect of how much I like a coaster, wooden or steel.

In my top 10 for instance I have a lot of traditional parks woodies: Legend, Raven, Boulder Dash, Lost Coaster, Phoenix but then I also have a lot of large park woodies as well: the Riverside Cyclone, the Boss, Tonnere de Zeus.

In the passage of time I do think that some of the non-independent park woodies like the Boss could be in danger of being tamed or roughened to the point where they are no longer top tier material, but for the present time I've found that there are plenty of quality wooden coasters in the larger parks.

And in regards to the whole Gwazi thing again...I rode it for the first time last winter and I didn't think it was overly rough. It had some bounce to it in spots, but nothing like the real wretched woodies that I've been on like Darien's Predator, Compounce's Wildcat or the like. Definitely seems to be an up front coaster though, and like many here I'm normally a back seat person.

Maybe my rides on Twisted Sisters were sub par, or perhaps I was just coming down from a HW high, but I was very unimpressed with that coaster when I rode it, and it rates very lowly on my racing / dueling woodie list, above only the atrocious American Eagle and below the KW Racer, the PKI Racer, Gwazi (of course), and the Lightning Racer.

And btw: I agree that the Lightning Racer is light on forces, the reason I rate it as highly as I do (22nd) is the overall atmosphere that it creates...it's a very fun throwback ride and I for one, can overlook the fact that it is pretty light on forces as a result.

Michael W.

Dippin' Dots: The Only "Ice Cream" with the URC Seal of Approval!

and I actually just realized that on the last Hawker poll I actually put Twisted Sisters even below the American Eagle based on the enjoyable backwards rides that I've had on the AE in the past couple of years...

M.

Dippin' Dots: The Only "Ice Cream" with the URC Seal of Approval!

> First of all you have no Idea how hard it is to run a
> coaster my brother is an employee there and it is very
> stressfull
>

Seriously dude, half the people here work at a park and run a coaster and Gwazi still has the worst staff no matter if it is stressful or not. Maybe it isn't the ops that suck, maybe it is the management that makes the ops so stressed out that they are slow. Either way it takes away from the attraction and that is not a good thing.

> Honestly, I don't think there is a whole lot of truth to
> this other than some parks maintain better.

> I say Gwazi's problem (Vibration) Is purelly caused by the
> trains and when the track heats up and swells a bit it gets
> much worse than early and late rides. I've felt it on every
> PTC equipted GCI I've ridden (Outlaw, Wildcat at Hershey,
> both Gwazis) It's not a factor in Millineum Flyer equipted
> trained coasters by GCI.

I think a big factor as to why Gwazi has deteriorated over the years is a simple one- year round operation. While it is probably down maybe 2 weeks out of the year for rehab, Gwazi is one of only five wood coasters in the country (with Belmont's Giant Dipper, SFMM's two and Ghostrider being the others) that operate during all twelve months of the year. Busch bought six trains from PTC for Gwazi so that two could be available at all times to run on each track. Unfortunatly, PTC trains don't take to GCI courses as well as the Milli Flyer trains do.

Compare Wildcat to Lightning Racer at Hershey. Wildcat has had to be completely retracked in key sections at least three times, while Lightning Racer (to date) has not had a SINGLE piece of track retracked. Partially GCI quality, partically single bench trains that treat the course better.

> Also how do you explain VIper/American Eagle? One is
> fantastic and the other sucks and they are in the same
> park.

Night and day, Chuck. Viper's design and construction was mostly in house, so they put their all into it knowing they would be the ones taking care of the ride. For that reason, the track is made up of 8 boards of laminated wood (average is seven I think). Track was all douglas fir as apposed to southern pine (far more expensive, but also far more durable). To compare, CCI went on the cheap with southern pine unless a customer specified otherwise. I think the two Silverwood rides are the only two CCIs with douglas fir track.

American Eagle had way too many people involved with its design and installation. Intamin sold the ride. A separate team of designers drew up the ride and did the calculations. Then, several companies were involved in the ride's construction- PTC being one of them. Needless to say, none of these companies were going to be operating the ride. So, from the beginning, there were probably problems with politics (this is speculation from knowing first hand now from my job about what goes on during the design and installation of major ride projects and the political B.S. that typically goes along with it). Now, American Eagle is having lots of track switched over to I-Beam. The run from the bottom of the first drop to the hill rising into the helix is a good example.

-sparky

> Gwazi is the best!!! Thats all there is to it!!!

I could be wrong here, but from what I have been reading, it certainly IS possible that not everyone feels the same way as you do.

If you're a Gwazi/Busch Gardens Tampa fan, that's all fine and good. Just remember that some people here may have opinions that differ from yours. You can say that Gwazi is "the best and that's it" all you want. That's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to that... but at least make some statements to back that opinion up. Simply saying "Those other rides are dumb!!!111" isn't exactly helping your cause.

Ray P.

> I think a big factor as to why Gwazi has
> deteriorated over the years is a simple one- year
> round operation. While it is probably down maybe
> 2 weeks out of the year for rehab, Gwazi is one
> of only five wood coasters in the country (with
> Belmont's Giant Dipper, SFMM's two and Ghostrider
> being the others) that operate during all twelve
> months of the year.

Good point, and that may well be part of it. But you're actually forgetting at least a couple of other wood coasters that operate year round- SCBB's Giant Dipper and the Dania Beach Hurricane, and I haven't heard those complaints about either of those (and never experienced a bad ride on the SCBB Dipper in 3 years of riding it at least a couple of times a month year round)

> Busch bought six trains from
> PTC for Gwazi so that two could be available at
> all times to run on each track. Unfortunatly, PTC
> trains don't take to GCI courses as well as the
> Milli Flyer trains do.

So what I'm wondering is, is BGT actually using all 6 trains? Any way to know if they're actually rotating them in and out as work is done on them or not? Additionally, it's not just the trains. It is absolutely in need of some track work- very likely more than can be done in just a couple of short weeks. But even with that it delivers a pretty good ride.

Oh, and Brian, as much as you might like Gwazi, wait until you actually get to experience the world a bit more before making statements like some of those you're making. Then you'll see just how silly some of them make you sound. :)

Sorry if that last little bit sounded rude. Didn't mean it to and didn't realize til after I posted that it didn't sound very good. No offense was intended.

Now if I could only find that edit function. :)

> I think a big factor as to why Gwazi has
> deteriorated over the years is a simple one- year
> round operation. While it is probably down maybe
> 2 weeks out of the year for rehab, Gwazi is one
> of only five wood coasters in the country (with
> Belmont's Giant Dipper, SFMM's two and Ghostrider
> being the others) that operate during all twelve
> months of the year.

I'm fairly sure that while SCBB is open in a limited operation mode from Jan-Mar (which does include the Dipper), that this is only on weekends, and only from noon-5. I'm pretty sure SCBB is closed in Nov and Dec altogether, except Neptune's Kingdom. So, there is plenty of "rehab" time for the park to work on the ride to keep it in its typical tip top condition.

SFMM also only opens mostly for weekends during the winter months, but both of their woodies no feature mostly I-Beam based track beds, so they are hardly woodies anymore anyway.

That leaves Ghostrider, Belmont Dipper, and Gwazi as the only woodies that operate all year (I may be wrong with the Belmont Dipper, which may only operate on weekends).

As far as BGT "using" all six trains, I can't say. I do know that the first time I rode Gwazi in February of 2000 that the ride was running two train on each track, with the other two trains visible under the brake runs in pieces- looking to have been receiving rehab. I'm unsure if they still do this four years later.

-sparky

-sparky

>First of all you have no Idea how hard it is to run a
>coaster my brother is an employee there and it is >very stressfull

True, Eric doesn't know how to run a coaster... no idea. Especially a "dueling" coaster ... and either do I...We only run that *unstressful* coaster you may have heard of at IOA, DUELING DRAGONS! ;) *If we miss duel, it's a big deal, but I can't remember the last time I have ridden Gwazi when it has dueled.*

Anyway. You posted a message and so you have to expect people to express their feelings about the topic too... and a lot of times, they don't agree. Don't take it so personally.

Whatever don't type anything

There is no hate about Gwazi!!!

Busch Gardens

> Whatever don't type anything

Yeah Lisa.. you obviously have no idea.

On a serious note, which is getting harder and harder to do here.. if we miss a duel at Dueling Dragons we tend to a little bit of unfriendly feedback about that. If we miss a lot of duels us controls people will get reemed out by Supervision..

If Gwazi ever duels, I'd prob be too busy leaving a big mess in the train to even notice. Well, a few months ago they did have both sides running for a few hours when we were there.. and I'm sure they would have been taken out for ice cream if they ever dueled. Let's not put too much pressure on the ride op's over there though. They only have about 15 minutes to get everyone ready. Wouldnt make sense to hold up the other train for a few seconds to have them duel.

Sinkhole,
Eric

Glen Rock Carolers

> Whatever don't type anything

okay.

> That ride is really cool best wooden
> rollercoaster I have ever rided on!!! Who has
> rided it and agrees with me?

Every post you make is insane. I actually laugh really hard.

Mac

> Whatever don't type anything

> okay.

He said don't type anything, Lisa, you directly disobeyed him, roflmao

Ed

> Whatever don't type anything

> okay.

> He said don't type anything, Lisa, you directly
> disobeyed him, roflmao

No she didn't. She said, "okay." Not, "anything" Therefore she didn't disobey him. As long as she avoids that nasty a-word... :P

Shee, leave the poor girl alone, or we'll let her slap you upside the head. hehe

> Every post you make is insane. I actually laugh
> really hard.

> Mac

EVERY post... makes for some good reading ;)

Thank you.

Yours truely,
*anything*
(I couldn't resist- it's the 12yr old in me)

> No she didn't. She said, "okay." Not,
> "anything" Therefore she didn't disobey
> him. As long as she avoids that nasty a-word...
> :P

> Shee, leave the poor girl alone, or we'll let her
> slap you upside the head. hehe

If you were my age, (and your not, even though 39 is young) and you saw Lisa, this would not be necessarily be a bad thing. :P

Ed

I think it´s good that this brian kid got booted cause he was starting to freak me out.
My therory is he´s living in a real version of the "Truman Show" but he´s living at BGT instead of a big studio. Not knowing of anything outside the park and his only way to communicate outside was to harrass people on the message boards. :)
Pat

> Shee, leave the poor girl alone, or we'll let her
> slap you upside the head. hehe

> If you were my age, (and your not, even though 39
> is young) and you saw Lisa, this would not be
> necessarily be a bad thing. :P

I'm not that far behind. Tomorrow makes 35. Uggh, halfway through... :P

But really, I couldn't let her do that to me. My wife would kill me. More than likely because she was jumping in to help. :)

I did not get booted

Busch Gardens

> I think it´s good that this brian kid got booted cause he
> was starting to freak me out.
> My therory is he´s living in a real version of the
> "Truman Show" but he´s living at BGT instead of
> a big studio. Not knowing of anything outside the park and
> his only way to communicate outside was to harrass people
> on the message boards. :)

LOL.. that's great. It all makes sense now.

> I did not get booted

Then why do you have a different name???? DUH!!!
Cause you were a BIG JERK witht he last name!
.
Katie

> I did not get booted

> Then why do you have a different name???? DUH!!!
> Cause you were a BIG JERK witht he last name!
> .
> Katie

Yeah really! Too bad a under a different name he will still be an ignoramous. I would be willing to bet that we never see another post from someone with the screen name of brian1503,thank God.

Kelly

> I did not get booted

> Then why do you have a different name???? DUH!!!
> Cause you were a BIG JERK witht he last name!
> .
> Katie

> Yeah really! Too bad a under a different name he will still
> be an ignoramous. I would be willing to bet that we never
> see another post from someone with the screen name of
> brian1503,thank God.

> Kelly

That shoud be BR549

Chuck

Rode it felt like every bone in my body would rattle loose. I realize that woodies are rougher than the steel but this was worse than normal. Thunderhead at Dollywood was much better than Gwazi. I would never ride it again and that says a lot for me to say being a coaster fanatic!

> Ya know Dave, why don't you go back to ignoring my post and
> I'll do the same for you?

> Oh, BTW, Weren't you banned? TWICE?

You weren’t thinking of me; were you Chuck? I have not been banned twice...yet...but it made me wonder if you have been thinking of me while I was gone. I know I’ve missed you. How you been?

> Gwazi-- I like the Jeckyl and Hyde explanation.. but more
> than usual its on the level of Mean Streak.. it's a harsh
> thing to say..

Good thing I did not go on that day. MS...huh?

> but I think both Gwazi and LR pale in
> comparison to Wildcat and Roar East.

I was very under whelmed by Roar. I liked Wild One much better. Maybe another Jeckyl and Hyde.

When I went on Gwazi, the best seat I could find was the front on Tiger. Very nice night ride, enjoyed it very much, not enough air, and not top ten material. Still I can list several woodies that I like less.

Lets do that:

Mean Streak
Blue Streak
Twister (yeah, that one everyone loves)
Roar (SFA)
American Eagle
Tornado
Outlaw
The Underground
High Roller
Scooby Do Ghost Coaster (PKD)
Beastie
Rebel Yell
Pegasus
Comet (HP)
Hercules
Hurler (PKD)
Rolling Thunder
Son of Beast
Wolverine Wildcat
Zach's Zoomer
Hoosier Hurricane

Yep, I am pretty sure it is not the worst woodie out there.

Which Blue Streak do you mean? Compounce? CP? :P

Just for trivias sake, since you bring it up, on my list of 40 wood coasters I've been on, I've got more than 20 that I have ranked lower than Gwazi. No, it's not in my top 10 either, but there are a good number of coasters out there far worse.

But it is certainly a coaster that you ride in the front of the train- for me no further back than the third car, and preferably in the back of the front car or either seat in the second.

> Ya know Dave, why don't you go back to ignoring my post and
> I'll do the same for you?

> Oh, BTW, Weren't you banned? TWICE?

> You weren’t thinking of me; were you Chuck? I have not
> been banned twice...yet...but it made me wonder if you have
> been thinking of me while I was gone. I know I’ve missed
> you. How you been?

> Gwazi-- I like the Jeckyl and Hyde explanation.. but more
> than usual its on the level of Mean Streak.. it's a harsh
> thing to say..

> Good thing I did not go on that day. MS...huh?

> but I think both Gwazi and LR pale in
> comparison to Wildcat and Roar East.

> I was very under whelmed by Roar. I liked Wild One much
> better. Maybe another Jeckyl and Hyde.

> When I went on Gwazi, the best seat I could find was the
> front on Tiger. Very nice night ride, enjoyed it very much,
> not enough air, and not top ten material. Still I can list
> several woodies that I like less.

> Lets do that:

> Mean Streak
> Blue Streak
> Twister (yeah, that one everyone loves)
> Roar (SFA)
> American Eagle
> Tornado
> Outlaw
> The Underground
> High Roller
> Scooby Do Ghost Coaster (PKD)
> Beastie
> Rebel Yell
> Pegasus
> Comet (HP)
> Hercules
> Hurler (PKD)
> Rolling Thunder
> Son of Beast
> Wolverine Wildcat
> Zach's Zoomer
> Hoosier Hurricane

> Yep, I am pretty sure it is not the worst woodie out there.

>

Oh hell Dave you forgot Raging Wolf Bobs (SFWoA/GL)

Katie

>
> Oh hell Dave you forgot Raging Wolf Bobs (SFWoA/GL)

> Katie

And don't forget the sacred cow "LoCoSuMo," which ranks waaaaaaay below Gwazi and all the others in the various lists I've seen in my opinion.

And Snoopy, it wasn't this thread...(reference our convo tonite)...it was another one involving the kid.

~MommaBeast

> Which Blue Streak do you mean? Compounce? CP? :P

CP

> Oh hell Dave you forgot Raging Wolf Bobs (SFWoA/GL)

I have not been on it yet, but I'll ride it with you this summer if ur lucky.

> And don't forget the sacred cow "LoCoSuMo," which
> ranks waaaaaaay below Gwazi and all the others in the
> various lists I've seen in my opinion.

I have been on LoCoSuMo and I loved it. It is different...it seems to be a love or hate ride.

>
> Oh hell Dave you forgot Raging Wolf Bobs (SFWoA/GL)

> Katie

> And don't forget the sacred cow "LoCoSuMo," which
> ranks waaaaaaay below Gwazi and all the others in the
> various lists I've seen in my opinion.

> And Snoopy, it wasn't this thread...(reference our convo
> tonite)...it was another one involving the kid.

> ~MommaBeast
>

Oops, slipped my mind!! How are ya Nita, things well??? Everything is alright in the Burgh. IM whenever you get some free time, we should have a nice chat!!

Katie

I have not been on it yet, but I'll ride it with you this
summer if ur lucky.

The more the merrier at GL and KW weekend, we are gonna have a good old time!!! And yes I would be lucky if you rode it with me, LOL!

Katie

I wouldn't call Lost Coaster a sacred, loved coaster by any means.

One might get that impression by reading posts by those of us who have fallen in love with it, but I think this board obfuscates the fact that it isn't a generally popular ride; either among enthusiasts or the GP.

Some people "get" it, and some people don't. It's just one of those rides that causes an extreme dichotomy in the enthusiast community based on what you're looking for in a ride.

It's still in my top 10 (even though it has been tamed relative to open season), but I'm the resident lateral fan of this board it seems...

Michael W.

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