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Ghostrider vs Roar and (Texas Giant)

R

Posted:
4/5/00 at
1:57:08 AM

I finally road Ghostrider (KBF) and I'll have to say that while it certainly is a good ride with airtime and laterals, I think Roar at SFMW is the superior woodie in California. Roar may not be bigger or faster than Ghostrider, but it packs a much better punch with no dead spots! Its fast paced from start to finish and I imagine it to be the closest thing in existence to a modern incarnation of a Traver ride. On another note, before I rode Ghostrider, the reviews I read of it made me expect a ride that would be similar to the Texas Giant (SFOT). Well, I was disappointed and it pales in comparison. The Texas Giant has always been my favorite wood coaster and in my opinion, it hasn't been topped since. Although I haven't ridden the "Giant" since the early 90's its good to know its still a kick butt ride! I would suggest to all you Ghostrider fans that haven't taken a trip to Dallas to make it your next coaster trip...you won't be sorry!

Re: Ghostrider vs Roar and (Texas Giant) by Johnny Mnemonic at 4/5/00 2:40:35 AM

> I finally road Ghostrider (KBF) and I'll
> have to say that while it certainly is a
> good ride with airtime and laterals, I think
> Roar at SFMW is the superior woodie in
> California. Roar may not be bigger or faster
> than Ghostrider, but it packs a much better
> punch with no dead spots! Its fast paced
> from start to finish and I imagine it to be
> the closest thing in existence to a modern
> incarnation of a Traver ride. On another
> note, before I rode Ghostrider, the reviews
> I read of it made me expect a ride that
> would be similar to the Texas Giant (SFOT).
> Well, I was disappointed and it pales in
> comparison. The Texas Giant has always been
> my favorite wood coaster and in my opinion,
> it hasn't been topped since. Although I
> haven't ridden the "Giant" since
> the early 90's its good to know its still a
> kick butt ride! I would suggest to all you
> Ghostrider fans that haven't taken a trip to
> Dallas to make it your next coaster
> trip...you won't be sorry!

There is really not much to argue with here, as I have said before, California has 4 great woodies(Ghostrider, Roar and both Giant Dippers), not 1, as most seem to think. The order in which you like them is all a matter of opinion. I *have* also ridden Texas Giant, and it is a masterful coaster, very fast, with extreme airtime. It is my second favorite wood coaster, right behind Ghostrider! In my opinion, the is no comparison, Ghostrider blows away the Giant IMO. But, the rest I mentioned are also great. :P

Re: Ghostrider vs Roar and (Texas Giant) by Aaron at 4/5/00 3:06:36 AM

> I finally road Ghostrider (KBF) and I'll
> have to say that while it certainly is a
> good ride with airtime and laterals, I think
> Roar at SFMW is the superior woodie in
> California. Roar may not be bigger or faster
> than Ghostrider, but it packs a much better
> punch with no dead spots! Its fast paced
> from start to finish and I imagine it to be
> the closest thing in existence to a modern
> incarnation of a Traver ride. On another
> note, before I rode Ghostrider, the reviews
> I read of it made me expect a ride that
> would be similar to the Texas Giant (SFOT).
> Well, I was disappointed and it pales in
> comparison. The Texas Giant has always been
> my favorite wood coaster and in my opinion,
> it hasn't been topped since. Although I
> haven't ridden the "Giant" since
> the early 90's its good to know its still a
> kick butt ride! I would suggest to all you
> Ghostrider fans that haven't taken a trip to
> Dallas to make it your next coaster
> trip...you won't be sorry!

I haven't ridden Ghost Rider or Texas Giant yet but I do agree with you about Roar. I've ridden all 3 Northern California roller coasters but Roar just simply blows the other two away, most especially the Grizzly. The dipper is great, even more for the fact that it's over 75 years old, but it's not as intense as Roar. The lap bars on Roar didn't really bother me. Even when it was pressed down really hard I somehow managed to find some air on most elements. The times when I didn't have the lapbar really pushed down, tremendous airtime! Airtime during the first drop, the turn, the third hill, most especially the fifth hill and roofed section and final few bunny hops. It was even more intense during at night with tremendous speed. The trains seem to just rip through the tracks really fast, laterals were great and it wasn't crystal glass smooth which most people say which made it a very wild ride at the time (a good thing). From all the wooden coasters I've ridden in California (all except the San Diego GD and GR), Roar is by far my favorite woodie and a four way tie for favorite roller coaster in Northern Cal.

Re: Ghostrider vs Roar and (Texas Giant) by Johnny Mnemonic at 4/5/00 3:22:52 AM

> I finally road Ghostrider (KBF) and I'll
> have to say that while it certainly is a
> good ride with airtime and laterals, I think
> Roar at SFMW is the superior woodie in
> California. Roar may not be bigger or faster
> than Ghostrider, but it packs a much better
> punch with no dead spots! Its fast paced
> from start to finish and I imagine it to be
> the closest thing in existence to a modern
> incarnation of a Traver ride. On another
> note, before I rode Ghostrider, the reviews
> I read of it made me expect a ride that
> would be similar to the Texas Giant (SFOT).
> Well, I was disappointed and it pales in
> comparison. The Texas Giant has always been
> my favorite wood coaster and in my opinion,
> it hasn't been topped since. Although I
> haven't ridden the "Giant" since
> the early 90's its good to know its still a
> kick butt ride! I would suggest to all you
> Ghostrider fans that haven't taken a trip to
> Dallas to make it your next coaster
> trip...you won't be sorry!

I think I may have met you. Were you at the Roar opening day a last year? Just wondering... :P

Re: you know it! the Giant kicks it by Raging Bull Fan at 4/5/00 9:45:08 AM

> I finally road Ghostrider (KBF) and I'll
> have to say that while it certainly is a
> good ride with airtime and laterals, I think
> Roar at SFMW is the superior woodie in
> California. Roar may not be bigger or faster
> than Ghostrider, but it packs a much better
> punch with no dead spots! Its fast paced
> from start to finish and I imagine it to be
> the closest thing in existence to a modern
> incarnation of a Traver ride. On another
> note, before I rode Ghostrider, the reviews
> I read of it made me expect a ride that
> would be similar to the Texas Giant (SFOT).
> Well, I was disappointed and it pales in
> comparison. The Texas Giant has always been
> my favorite wood coaster and in my opinion,
> it hasn't been topped since. Although I
> haven't ridden the "Giant" since
> the early 90's its good to know its still a
> kick butt ride! I would suggest to all you
> Ghostrider fans that haven't taken a trip to
> Dallas to make it your next coaster
> trip...you won't be sorry!

meanstreak shouldn't even be mentioned with the GIANT

Re: Ghostrider vs Roar and (Texas Giant) by Raging Bull Fan at 4/5/00 9:51:29 AM

There is really not much to argue with here, as
> I have said before, California has 4 great
> woodies(Ghostrider, Roar and both Giant
> Dippers), not 1, as most seem to think. The
> order in which you like them is all a matter
> of opinion. I *have* also ridden Texas
> Giant, and it is a masterful coaster, very
> fast, with extreme airtime. It is my second
> favorite wood coaster, right behind
> Ghostrider! In my opinion, the is no
> comparison, Ghostrider blows away the Giant
> IMO. But, the rest I mentioned are also
> great. :P Man this coaster still blows me away. Went to arlington last week and I can see why this woodie is still considered the best since its inception in 1990.(named the #1 wooden roller coaster in the world by Amusement Today, Inside Track and The National Amusement Park Historical Association.) This also brings me to the point of the Cobb designed woodies Six Flags has. Colossus, Rolling Thunder etc. Brings these woodies back to there original specs.

Re: Ghostrider vs Roar and (Texas Giant) by Bruce Jensen at 4/5/00 10:50:39 AM

R wrote:

> Roar at SFMW is the superior woodie in
> California. Roar may not be bigger or faster
> than Ghostrider, but it packs a much better
> punch with no dead spots! Its fast paced
> from start to finish and I imagine it to be
> the closest thing in existence to a modern
> incarnation of a Traver ride.

I find Ghostrider to be by far the wildest ride I've been on to date, exceeding considerably the not inestimable spirit of Roar, which fairly easily settles into second place followed *VERY* closely by the SCBB Giant Dipper. Last year I would have had Roar and SCBB neck and neck, but this year Roar moves ahead by virtue of its apparently increased speed, which is definitely an improvement, and its obviously superior seating in the beautiful GCI cars. The lapbars really stink, but oh well. I find Roar's ride quite good for the most part, although I am slightly disappointed by the big first camelback right after the track passes through the structure for the first time, and also the approach to the hilltop curve right after that, both places where I think the air could have easily been maximized but was not. Ghostrider, on the other hand, never seems to miss an opportunity for air. Now, some skilled riders have been complaining of Roar's roughness and shuffling this year, and it is doing that a bit more, especially the brown train; this effect should not be allowed to deteriorate. However, at this point in its life, Roar West is certainly a great ride, and the slight increase in roughness makes it a very strong contender from where I sit as well.

As far as Traver's rides go, Roar does not come close to breaking ribs or any of that other stuff the Traver's Triplets were known for...and a darn good thing too, considering all the attention amusement ride accidents have been getting lately! I wonder, for those who have ridden both - how does Roar (east or west) compare to Knoebel's Twister, another much-lauded twister design? And what of Mr. Twister, at the old Elitch Gardens?

> On another note, before I rode Ghostrider, the reviews
> I read of it made me expect a ride that
> would be similar to the Texas Giant (SFOT).
> Well, I was disappointed and it pales in
> comparison.

OOOH - this sounds weird...GR loses to both of these coasters? Did you hit it on a bad day in the cold clammy AM?

> The Texas Giant has always been
> my favorite wood coaster and in my opinion,
> it hasn't been topped since. Although I
> haven't ridden the "Giant" since
> the early 90's its good to know its still a
> kick butt ride! I would suggest to all you
> Ghostrider fans that haven't taken a trip to
> Dallas to make it your next coaster
> trip...you won't be sorry!

I certainly hope to some day soon! Especially after the retracking has apparently restored it to its former golory!

Bruce Jensen

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