Six Flags St. Louis rumored to get SFOT's Flashback?!?!

I whole heatedly agree with you, 100%. The thing that sucks...is that people like me and you, are NOT the target audience of their park. It's ironic, but the people who love amusement parks, rides, the technology and theming behind them, ect, are enthusiasts of an industry that are enthusiasts of us, but rather the GENERAL public's dollar.

As a business, if they can bring in a ride that could be advertised as a "New" attraction and make more money, rather then saving for another year towards a Hyper coaster, then they would probably do it.

It sucks, I agree with everything you said. It just sucks to think that what you said would happen. It's like we are car enthusiasts, yet the manufacturer doesn't take into account what we would want, because they want the car to appeal to more people.

Lol, I think you have it wrong. Six Flags St. Louis will possibly be receiving a new Vekoma Inverted Booomerang Coaster (Invertigo) instead, not the boomerang. In my opinion the park already has a shuttle coaster, so they don't need another one,even if it is an Invertigo, or a standard Boomerang, they deserve better. In my opinion, If any Six Flags park , Six Flags Great Adventure could take the Invertigo, because Six Flags America already had one,and almost every Six Flags park has had or has some form of a Boomerang. If SFOT took down Flashback, I could see it being scrapped.I think whoever rumored Flashback going to SFstL is looney. Even if it were to go to SFstL, I think it wouldn't be that bad, because most people aren't coaster enthusiasts like us, so they would be most likely be appealed to the boomerang anyway, so it could be good in some ways.

^^^Where did you hear the Invertigo rumor from? The rumor from screamscape is that SFSTL might get the regular boomerang Flashback from SFOT.

www.screamscape.com/html/six_flags_st__louis.htm

* This post was modified at 7/23/12 5:48:23 PM *

Guests at SfstL were surveyed on a possible new 2013 attraction. A) A Zamperla Disc Ride, B) A Vekoma Invertigo, and C), a ZacSpin Intamin Coaster.

^^^That was the older rumor about a month ago (6/25/12). The latest rumor (7/23/12)is mentioning Flashback. With that being said, of course nothing is set in stone, as these are just rumors.

Trust me, I also don't think they need another shuttle coaster, but unfortunately it's not about what we think.. SFGam had V2 and Deja Vu at the same time, and with Batman they had 3 inverts, 2 "shuttles"..

I know that they're doing whatever they want to attract people, but if they want to INCREASE their attandance they have to do something drastic that will pull people from farther away. With the lack of parks in the 1-2 hour vacinity, they are already pulling in the local crowds. To increase revenue they need to extend their market - how do you extend the market? You build something that will make peole drive a couple hours just because they heard about it and it looks cool or breaks some records.

St. Louis's business model is not very smart, to just barely keep the local market entertained enough to come back 1nce or 2wice a year. Imagine they built a giga coaster. BOOM. All of the sudden thrill lovers, both "enthusiests" like us and regular people will flock to St. Louis, just like the world flocks to Cedar Point and SFMM. Just about everyone I talk to has either been to or has heard of and wants to go to Cedar Point in Ohio.

Back to the point - If that's their next move it sucks, and I'm going to make a big point of it wherever I can.

To put a standard boomerang at SFStL would be the worst thing they could add to that park and I like Vekoma boomerangs. If they could have held off and waited to move Deja Vu to St. Louis instead of SFNE then I wouldn't have a problem with that.

What is the yearly attendance at SFStL? Isn't it high enough to justify a large investment every once in a while? Their last big ride, in scope and size, was The Boss in 2000.

Come on, Six Flags, go big at St. Louis and sell Flashback if you need to remove it from Texas. I'm sure there's some small or mid-sized park out there that would love to have a big ride like that in their park.

G-Dog

Overbanked said:

^^^Where did you hear the Invertigo rumor from? The rumor from screamscape is that SFSTL might get the regular boomerang Flashback from SFOT.

www.screamscape.com/html/six_flags_st__louis.htm

The Survey is still at the bottom of the page. Nothing about a Boomerang....

Fatsoccerguy191 said:

Overbanked said:

^^^Where did you hear the Invertigo rumor from? The rumor from screamscape is that SFSTL might get the regular boomerang Flashback from SFOT.

www.screamscape.com/html/six_flags_st__louis.htm

The Survey is still at the bottom of the page. Nothing about a Boomerang....

Ohh...nevermind, i found it!!, I think it would be highly ridiculous if the park installed a Vekoma BOOMERANG in their park.The park used all their persuasive words on Mr. Freeze Reverse Blast already, what are they going to say for this shuttle coaster?,lol. I can just imagine Six Flags saying, "Take a seat on this "new" dare-devil that lifts you very high in the air, and takes you through a corkscrew, crap!, I mean Cobra Roll, who cares, and then go through a super loop!!!, then do it all again... backwards!! ",lol....if they have a preview day for a Boomerang, I will laugh. This park does not need another shuttle coaster, it needs a flying coaster. Six Flags Great America, and Magic Mountain are the spoiled Six Flags parks, they get a new coaster like every year. Every other park usually gets some other Six Flags park's used coaster.. Like Deja Vu from SFMM went to SFNE, and SFGAm's Iron Wolf went to SFA, and Chang from former SFKK was sent to SFGAdv. SFKK's Wild Mouse was relocated to SFNE, to many to count... Six Flags Great America got a wing coaster, why cann't the other Sf parks?, but then again GP may have something to do with it. Another thing that weird's me otu is that All the Sf parks in Texas have a Vekoma Standard Boomerang Coaster. ( Boomerang at SFFT, Flashback at SFOT which according to Screamscape is rumored to be removed). The people in Texas that go to both Sf parks might not find it excited that they found the same ride that was in the other park in the same state. They should only have a Boomerang at one of the Sf parks in Texas...I'm with you on your campaign of no visiting SFstL if they get the Boomerang. It's about time with put some knowledge into their minds.

I feel your pain and completely understand where you are coming from.

Being that my homepark is SFA, we didn't have any new major additions to the park over an 11 year period of time only to receive Iron Wolf.

It's a slap in the face completely.

I vowed last year not to go to SFA until they built a new coaster and now I may never go back.

SFA has removed more flats than any other operating back hands down.

I can relate to how you feel.

I'd much rather drive through DC, go an extra hour and a half, spend more money and get a better experience, better service, and more enjoyable time at KD than go to SFA.

I guess living in St Louis you don't have other options nearby though?

Joe
Great_Ump

Not really..

SFGam is about 5.5 hours away
Holiday World is about 4 hours away
WoF (which I've never been to, and doesn't attract me that much) is like 4 hours away
Silver Dollar City (which I may visit when Outlaw opens) is about 3-4 hours away...

About SFA - Yes, I also join your thoughts about this.. As a matter of fact, last year my friends and I did an "East Coast Coaster Trip" where we started out at BGW then to KD and wanted to end our tip with SFGAdv. We had one day in the middle to break the drive, so originally we thought we would just go ahead and use our season passes to go to SFA. But after doing some more planning, we decided that it was worth the drive and the money to skip SFA and drive through Hershey, PA to experience HersheyPark instead. I think they have much more to offer. The one thing I've never experienced that SFA has is the Vekoma Flying Duchman..

Tomes said:
The one thing I've never experienced that SFA has is the Vekoma Flying Duchman..

I had a brain freeze reading that. I don't think I'd ever seen the term "Flying Dutchman" as it relates to a flying coaster. A ghost ship, yeah.

As I mentioned on another thread, I prefer the Vekoma flyers to B&M, and Batwing is my favorite (OK, out of two, so not a big sample size.) But I haven't been on Manta.

Mike

Haha! I think that's the name of that model:
http://rcdb.com/8286.htm

But anyway, yeah it looks like fun. If St. Louis received one of those I'd be ecstatic!!

For the record - the Superman UFs SUCK! You have to ride Tatsu, or even better-Manta, to really experience B&M flyers.

Great_Ump said:

I feel your pain and completely understand where you are coming from.

Being that my homepark is SFA, we didn't have any new major additions to the park over an 11 year period of time only to receive Iron Wolf.

It's a slap in the face completely.

I vowed last year not to go to SFA until they built a new coaster and now I may never go back.

SFA has removed more flats than any other operating back hands down.

I can relate to how you feel.

I'd much rather drive through DC, go an extra hour and a half, spend more money and get a better experience, better service, and more enjoyable time at KD than go to SFA.

I guess living in St Louis you don't have other options nearby though?

Joe
Great_Ump

SFA is also my home-park. Iron Wolf ain't pullin' it. My favorite coaster was the Two-face, but they took it down. I want to cry every time I go to SFA and see Two-Face's old station, old spot, still in a hot mess. It's starting to be not even a hot mess anymore. I get the season pass because it's the only theme park close to where I live. They really need to fill the holes in SFA.

Tomes said:

Not really..

SFGam is about 5.5 hours away
Holiday World is about 4 hours away
WoF (which I've never been to, and doesn't attract me that much) is like 4 hours away
Silver Dollar City (which I may visit when Outlaw opens) is about 3-4 hours away...

About SFA - Yes, I also join your thoughts about this.. As a matter of fact, last year my friends and I did an "East Coast Coaster Trip" where we started out at BGW then to KD and wanted to end our tip with SFGAdv. We had one day in the middle to break the drive, so originally we thought we would just go ahead and use our season passes to go to SFA. But after doing some more planning, we decided that it was worth the drive and the money to skip SFA and drive through Hershey, PA to experience HersheyPark instead. I think they have much more to offer. The one thing I've never experienced that SFA has is the Vekoma Flying Duchman..

If you didn't ride Batwing your not missing much,lol. It's not that fun anymore.I don't know why the line is always so long.

Tomes said:

Haha! I think that's the name of that model:
http://rcdb.com/8286.htm

But anyway, yeah it looks like fun. If St. Louis received one of those I'd be ecstatic!!

For the record - the Superman UFs SUCK! You have to ride Tatsu, or even better-Manta, to really experience B&M flyers.

That's what I mentioned in my comments about the park gives every other park besides SFMM and SFGam used coasters. SFstL could really really use a flying coaster. Even though SFA is my home park, I think if SF is going to give SFstL a used coaster, it should be Batwing from SFA. I would sacrifice that ride for you guys. You guys need it more than we do!!!, then SFI could replace SFA's Batwing with a Floor less coaster. They could also put a Intamin ZacSpin in Two-Face's old spot, becuase the spot was not very large, it barely fit a Vekoma Invertigo. I was always smushed whenever I waited in line for Two-Face. The station was small, so the line always stretched outside of it, and then the loop would be super close to you, and would be noisy whenever the train ran down it. A Zacspin would be great for Two-Face's old Spot thoguh.

Hey...
So my first impression was (I go to SFOT)
"GRRR I can't believe SOFT is getting MY Vekoma Boomerang... which I felt for a second, but my second thought was "oh I feel bad for SFSTL I mean seriously a 1989 Vekoma Boomerang? You could have at least been given an inverted one or something". In advanced I'd like to tell you it sucks and hurts you and mostly what your paying attention to is the seat in front of you because you can't think because it jerks you SOOOO MUCH! You are getting new cars though, i'm not sure if they are OTS but if they are you are going to die. :) :)