Thoughts on Verbolten
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sparky Posted: |
Maybe it's social media, countless photo trip reports with With that said, here comes Verbolten. Given BGW is not your "typical" Starting on the midway, the new attraction's installation completes Because Verbolten is mostly track in a warehouse, a quick run to the The trains look sexy, and as previously stated, the simplistic My understanding as to the difference between the Intamin and Zierer Back on ground level, trains advance forward and dip into the second Riders exit left and now cross over the track towards the front end of Description complete, the ride perfectly compliments the rest of BGW's |
Verbolten sounds like my kind of ride- well themed, special effects, and a nod to a coaster of the past. From all the photos I have seen, it looks like Busch Gardens has more than made up for the removal of one of my favorite coasters.
And now, over to the Hampton Inn website to see how much rooms in Williamsburg are going for on june 7th... ;)
ray_p said:
Leave it to Mark to post an amazingly detailed description of a new coaster. This was a fantastic review
Well, said Ray!
Exactly what I was thinking.
Oh, sorry, spah-key Mahk, Verbolten sounds the same whether coming out of your mouth or mine!
;-)
ray_p said:
I want to visit on my overnight excursion coming up in 2 weeks (it's down to Hershey, Canada's Wonderland and BGW).And now, over to the Hampton Inn website to see how much rooms in Williamsburg are going for on june 7th... ;)
OK, guess I won't be seeing you at Hershey on the 30th nor at CW in September.
...brain kicks in...
Oh wait, you meant you are traveling to one of those three!
So there is still hope for two out of three?
I got a notice in the mail today re Busch passholders getting early entry for Verbolten every Thursday-Sunday in June.
I have the platinum pass, but I won't be making it to VA this year.
If all else fails, it's been 6 years since I've been to PPP... Black diamond has been calling me too. :)
So, URC probability whizzes, puzzle me this.
If I were to ride Verbolten just three times during a BGW single day visit, what are the odds at the end of the day I would be saying one of the following?
Good: I got the same "experience" on all three rides
Better: I got two out of three
Best: I got each one
I wouldn't dare to wonder which of the three actual experiences per each...!
Anyway, I figure it could be years for the "best" scenario to occur since the average enthusiast probably doesn't hit BGW but maybe three or four times a decade at best.
But over that time period I would certainly hope to have experienced Spirit, Storm and Wolves at least once each!
MABrider said:
If I were to ride Verbolten just three times during a BGW single day visit, what are the odds at the end of the day I would be saying one of the following?
Good: I got the same "experience" on all three rides
Better: I got two out of three
Best: I got each one
Unfortunately, the odds are probably not good. With the non-divisible trains (4 trains vs 3 experiences), you are going to be hard pressed to wait in line and pick the correct train in only 3 shots. The good news is that it is NOT random. The sequences play in the same order, so if you could stay on the same train 3 times in a row, you could get all 3 experiences in one shot.
Good luck trying to get that on any but a wash out day this year.
Very nice TR, Sparky. I specifically avoided as much Verbolten and Skyrush info as possible to keep the rides somewhat fresh. It did make the Black Forest sequence even more impressive.
Paul
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Jen
GoYanks34 said:
What an awesome, vivid description! Bravo for a job well done! I have been contemplating taking a trip down there this year but keep wavering since I was just there last year. I think I may have to check this coaster out sooner than later while I once again cheat on my beloved KK with Griffon, LOL! My God I LOVE that coaster......
Jen
Shhh, haven't you had enough trouble with KK breaking down because of your infidelity? :)
Paul
There are other reasons to choose BGT over BGE (Kumba and Montu), but if the two new rides are your only reason, you may want to reconsider.
Paul
alpengeistno3 said:
GoYanks34 said:
What an awesome, vivid description! Bravo for a job well done! I have been contemplating taking a trip down there this year but keep wavering since I was just there last year. I think I may have to check this coaster out sooner than later while I once again cheat on my beloved KK with Griffon, LOL! My God I LOVE that coaster......
JenShhh, haven't you had enough trouble with KK breaking down because of your infidelity? :)
Paul
LMAO! Well I've been faithful since the end of last June and even moved closer to him but apparently he's still holding a grudge and breaking down daily - a girl has needs you know! LOL!
Jen
alpengeistno3 said:
Hee, hee. That's funny because you just fell for the biggest trap of POV video. Cheetah Hunt looks like a massive and impressive ride, but when you ride it, that river sequence after the brake run just falls completely flat. Verbolten, on the other hand looks small and unassuming, but there are some really powerful forces at times during the ride and the theming in the Black Forest really puts it over the top.
There are other reasons to choose BGT over BGE (Kumba and Montu), but if the two new rides are your only reason, you may want to reconsider.Paul
I love BGW dont get me wrong, maybe i'm just not ready to see a new ride where BBW was just yet. CH does look better, and Florida in fall is always nice!
alpengeistno3 said:
That's funny because you just fell for the biggest trap of POV video. Cheetah Hunt looks like a massive and impressive ride, but when you ride it, that river sequence after the brake run just falls completely flat.
+1 (Which means I agree)
Cheetah Hunt has one of the most disappointing finishes of any coaster that I can think of; Which is too bad because the first half is excellent IMO.
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G-Dog
VB has been added to the 'ride before opening the park' idea if you have a season pass, No crowds, just you and VB with other BGW passholders. I also discovered VB has some growing pains (mechanical problems, etc) that has led to VB being shut down on a random basis but I associate that with being a new ride.
BGW has also given VB the coveted 'Behind the scenes' chance. Recently added, it appears VB riders can get an upclose examination of the normally closed off areas for a rider.
Always, Stredain
Anyone know if they have actually got the 5th train going in the cycle yet? I have my doubts.
Paul
As long as it doesn't become worse than BBW where for me in a 1 week span (when i was there in 2009), 1 day it didn't run at all, I guess I can live with that.
Stredain
Cyclone_Phil said:
As long as it doesn't become worse than BBW where for me in a 1 week span (when i was there in 2009), 1 day it didn't run at all, I guess I can live with that.
That's the run it's been on for me so far... I only live an hour away and have a platinum pass so it's not a huge deal for me to go up there, but at this point I'm already bored with everything else the park has to offer. When I go specifically to ride VB and it's out of service yet again, I find it very frustrating. On Friday, I went for the special RT only to be told they'd switched it to Apollo AFTER I walked to the back of the park, instead of at the gate when I asked about the RT. All these people have walkie talkies, it wouldn't be that hard to communicate amongst them.
My other complaint was, if your newest ride is supposed to be offering passholders RT and is broken down, can you not switch the RT to the next newest ride in the park, instead of one that is albeit fun but 13 years old and most people have ridden dozens of times already? I would've appreciated their decision a lot more if they gave us an hour on Griffon instead.
Aragia said:
My other complaint was, if your newest ride is supposed to be offering passholders RT and is broken down, can you not switch the RT to the next newest ride in the park, instead of one that is albeit fun but 13 years old and most people have ridden dozens of times already? I would've appreciated their decision a lot more if they gave us an hour on Griffon instead.
If they haven't changed it, Verbolten is offered because Germany opens later than the rest of the park (used to be 11:00 when I worked on Drachen Fire). Since Griffon opens with the park at 10:00, you wouldn't be able to get exclusive ride time on it.
I thought Apollo opened at 10:00, too, but I guess that must not be the case anymore.
Ride maintenance is usually communicated through radio code from the dispatcher on the walkies ("Verbolten is 10-7 controlled), which means the ride is down with no guests on the trains. Beyond that, if a person does not know what that code means, they would not be able to tell you and (if following instructions that we used to be given regarding shutdowns) would not have told you any way. Most likely the person directing you back there was not privy to the fact that the ride had been changed to Apollo and would not have found out as that info is typically given out over the phones rather than the radios.
Paul
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Aragia said:
Yeah as far as I know AC opens with the park as well, at least it has every morning I've been this season. But the RT is supposed to begin half an hour before the park even officially opens, so at the least it seems they could sub half an hour on a ride that is newer. Would it not be feasible to give out some type of a pass (exit pass maybe?) to those who were there waiting for the RT when the ride broke down, and let them come back later in the day and try for a chance on it? Do parks just not do that?
I suppose other parks do, but I have never known BGE to give out exit passes, even for evacuations. (Way back in 1988, my brother and I got stuck on Loch Ness and had to walk down lift 2. We got a golden ticket that was good any day for life. I think now they just give out tickets good for the season, but when I worked on Alpengeist, I don't recall them giving out anything when we had to evacuate the lift. I have to admit, I wouldn't know since I was up on the lift unlocking the seats.)
It was probably the logistics of getting people to go to the opposite end of the park to go to Griffon. How do you inform season pass holders heading towards Verbolten to go back towards Griffon without tipping off the other park patrons? Apollo was the easiest fix, especially if it was a last minute call. (plus if you took a poll, I think most people would prefer Apollo to Griffon, despite the age difference.)
Paul
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I haven't even ridden it, and I give it 2 thumbs down. 6th time at the park without a ride now.
Aragia said:
Well I'm now first in line for the front row and guess what? It's down again. Been in line exactly an hour, started with a 15 min wait and it broke down one train after I got in line. They just made the announcement that it has no expected resume time. Next I expect the typical "closed for the day" statement.
I haven't even ridden it, and I give it 2 thumbs down. 6th time at the park without a ride now.
Stuff like that stinks especially six times!
At least you have been able to go to the park 6 times this year (and will probably get a chance to go back later) as opposed to most for whom this is their only shot and the ride crapped on it.
I'm taking my shot in July, so hopefully the teething will be done by then.
Paul
TallStraightOne said:
I rode Verbolten four times yesterday, and am I the only one to say it was...rough? I'm not sure thats the right word to use, but it really pushed me around, and my head fell all all around and got caught on the sides of the headrests. Was this just a user error, or are there other people having this problem? I could have blacked out, I have no idea...Anyway It's an amazing ride regardless and I love the themes! I have experienced all three! AMAZING.
The forces in the helix are a lot stronger than the park would want to say. I would not categorize Verbolten as rough, but there are several surprising transitions that will introduce your head to the side of the car if you are not familiar with the ride. This is especially true if you ride in the back of the train.
Paul
TallStraightOne said:
Okay thanks.! Just making sure I wasn't crazy! Any tips Paul?
Keep riding :) In all seriousness, I never put my head against the headrest on any coaster (except for Skyrush, for now). Despite it being in most ride instructions, I find it a recipe for getting your brains scrambled. Keep it forward just enough to anticipate any quick direction changes and always lean into the turn.
Paul
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