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Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade

beastmaster beastmaster Profile

Posted:
2/8/12 at
9:09:30 AM

A roller coaster, a 250 ft. Ferris Wheel..and a 385 foot StarFlyer. Imagine those views of the AC skyline and the Atlantic Ocean!

I want to be excited by this news, but it sounds awfully ambitious.

Sorry about the size of the link..I hope it works.

Mike

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasantville_brigantine/steel-pier-renovation-a-blending-of-old-and-new-features/article_d1a770be-4e12-11e1-9533-001871e3ce6c.html?fb_ref=.TzIhgP2lFEQ.like&fb_source=profile_oneline

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by drachen drachen Profile at 2/8/12 11:01:12 AM

You beat me to the punch. I saw this a few days ago and meant to post it here.

I'm actually very excited by this news, and I hope it all comes to fruition.

I'm excited for the three rides that you mentioned, but I'm even more excited that they intend to make it a year-round operation. I love the idea of riding rides in the winter, and between this project and the one in the Meadowlands, we should soon have too options within a short driving distance.

I'm curious as to how they will make it an indoor facility. It does sound like at least the smaller rides will be inside. But my only concern is that it could lose that seaside open-air feel.

Another plus is that an addition like this will put a little heat on Morey's Piers. While they have worked over the years to improve infrastructure and added smaller rides, they haven't really added a major attraction since 1996, when Great White opened, with the acception of maybe the drop tower. Maybe they'll get moving on that new wooden coaster...

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 2/10/12 1:49:51 AM

Interesting. There hasn't been much to do at AC since they closed down the ocean pier mall years ago. I loved that one for their large arcade games section. The steel pier had some nice stuff to me as a kid because those were stuff I can ride before I overcame my fear of the big coasters. But in terms of rides, they have a long way to go. Morey's will still be more my destination of choice for rides.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by beastmaster beastmaster Profile at 2/10/12 5:47:03 AM

> Interesting. There hasn't been much to do at AC since they
> closed down the ocean pier mall years ago. I loved that one
> for their large arcade games section.

I was never much for video games, but I liked that arcade. A good food court surrounded it, and it had a Beast one-seat simulator. But to borrow a line from Marvin Gaye(?) ..ain't nothin' like the real thing, baby.

Mike

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Patripman Patripman Profile at 2/10/12 6:53:13 PM

I guess I want to say it is good news for AC but I cannot see who will support a revamped Steel Pier. AC and it main industry gambling is in real trouble ever since Pennsylvania opened their casinos. It is well documented that the Pa casino industry will overtake AC this year in gambling income. Yes Revel is opening but like anything else people will ooh and ah for the first few months then AC will go back to the seasonal rollercoaster it has been on for 4 years now.
Before the Pa casino industry AC was a 12-month destination with 60% of the gamblers coming in from Pa. There is a reason why the Steel Pier hasn't made it for the last many years and there are many reasons why AC is hurting and here are the reasons.

* Dangerous areas located just a block from the boardwalk
* Outrages hotel room prices especially on weekends and also the lack of any quality non gaming motel/hotel. Look at other nearby towns like Wildwood, OC and Seaside Heights you have many well run motels, try to find similar in AC.
* The excessive amount of homeless people and panhandlers along the boardwalk who turn the everyday visitor off. Walk the boardwalk in the morning and watch people do the trashcan buffet run, not something you want to see if your on vacation.
* lack of entertainment for kids under 16 to do other than the beach or watching their parents from a distance dropping the college fund into a slot machine. If AC had a better draw for this age group I would say fine the new Steel Pier is a great addition but I cannot say this in 2012.

I hope the plans work out for the new owner but again it is AC and that town has been on a downward spiral since 2007.

Patripman

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Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 2/10/12 8:56:38 PM

I can agree with everything you stated. even in the day, that block behind the casinos was just bad.I've seen areas that were 'rough' look nicer than AC. When I was 8, a thug just snatched my cap off my head. The guy looked maybe early 20s and way bigger than me. Point was, there was no security in the casino to stop that guy and as a kid I wasn't going to risk my life for a cap.

I can gamble, but that doesn't really interest me. The rides they have now are either too small or not for me.

to sum it up, I'd rather fly out to Las Vegas where there's more to do than to just gamble and enjoy the sites as well as be safer. AC is just terrible now that I've been to Vegas.

=
> Interesting. There hasn't been much to do at AC since they
> closed down the ocean pier mall years ago. I loved that one
> for their large arcade games section.

> I was never much for video games, but I liked that arcade.
> A good food court surrounded it, and it had a Beast
> one-seat simulator. But to borrow a line from Marvin
> Gaye(?) ..ain't nothin' like the real thing, baby.

> Mike
Yes, I loved those slot machines that distributed tokens as well as other games that gave you coupons. The prizes were cheap though, but I played the games for the fun of it since at the time I couldn't gamble.
I rode that simulator once. I remember Beast, and think they also had son of beast, but I think I rode on the former. Obviously today I'd take the real ride as the simulation can't match the real thing.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Great_Ump Great_Ump Profile at 2/10/12 9:33:20 PM

> I guess I want to say it is good news for AC but I cannot
> see who will support a revamped Steel Pier. AC and it main
> industry gambling is in real trouble ever since
> Pennsylvania opened their casinos. It is well documented
> that the Pa casino industry will overtake AC this year in
> gambling income. Yes Revel is opening but like anything
> else people will ooh and ah for the first few months then
> AC will go back to the seasonal rollercoaster it has been
> on for 4 years now.
> Before the Pa casino industry AC was a 12-month destination
> with 60% of the gamblers coming in from Pa. There is a
> reason why the Steel Pier hasn't made it for the last many
> years and there are many reasons why AC is hurting and here
> are the reasons.

> * Dangerous areas located just a block from the boardwalk
> * Outrages hotel room prices especially on weekends and
> also the lack of any quality non gaming motel/hotel. Look
> at other nearby towns like Wildwood, OC and Seaside Heights
> you have many well run motels, try to find similar in AC.
> * The excessive amount of homeless people and panhandlers
> along the boardwalk who turn the everyday visitor off. Walk
> the boardwalk in the morning and watch people do the
> trashcan buffet run, not something you want to see if your
> on vacation.
> * lack of entertainment for kids under 16 to do other than
> the beach or watching their parents from a distance
> dropping the college fund into a slot machine. If AC had a
> better draw for this age group I would say fine the new
> Steel Pier is a great addition but I cannot say this in
> 2012.

> I hope the plans work out for the new owner but again it is
> AC and that town has been on a downward spiral since 2007.

> Patripman
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It's funny you mention this Bernard because with all of the research I've done with PA in regards to the State of Maryland, it blows my mind that Marylanders are staying inside our own borders for slots only gambling when both PA and Deleware have full blown casinos with table games.

The largest of the four Maryland casinos is slated to open this fall at Maryland's largest Mall, Arundel Mills. It'll be interesting to see if this trend continues with the new slot only casino opening up.

Joe
Great_Ump

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Patripman Patripman Profile at 2/11/12 5:42:52 AM

All one needs to do is look at how every state in and around New Jersey has some sort of full time gambling. 1994 Delaware, 2006 Pennsylvania, 2011 Maryland, 2000/2010 expanded New York operations. Why bother gambling in New Jersey other than the 3 months in the summer when you have the opportunity to stay in Wildwood or OC. There was a time when there were 24-hour bus service to AC from Pittsburgh, Erie and other areas farther west. Now these buses go to The Meadows and Rivers casinos in Pittsburgh etc.

Patripman

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by CoasterFanatic CoasterFanatic Profile at 2/14/12 3:40:42 PM

>

> Another plus is that an addition like this will put a
> little heat on Morey's Piers. While they have worked over
> the years to improve infrastructure and added smaller
> rides, they haven't really added a major attraction since
> 1996, when Great White opened, with the acception of maybe
> the drop tower. Maybe they'll get moving on that new wooden
> coaster...

You joking right? Steel pier could never compete or even take away visitors from Moreys.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by drachen drachen Profile at 2/14/12 6:22:43 PM

> > > Another plus is that an addition like this will
> put a
> little heat on Morey's Piers. While they have worked over
> the years to improve infrastructure and added smaller
> rides, they haven't really added a major attraction since
> 1996, when Great White opened, with the acception of maybe
> the drop tower. Maybe they'll get moving on that new wooden
> coaster...

> You joking right? Steel pier could never compete or even
> take away visitors from Moreys.

No... I'm not kidding. The current Steel Pier can not compete with Morey's. This proposed new Steel Pier (combined with casino gambling) could draw many away from Wildwood.

Patripman brings up a lot of valid points, though. Atlantic City is a dying town ever since PA and others added casinos. I'd hate to see it get worse than it is.

Like I said before, I hope this new Steel Pier comes to fruition, and I hope it and Atlantic City are successful.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 2/14/12 11:12:24 PM

I have to agree with fanatic here, Morey's has 3 packed piers of attractions. Steel pier will need to match them in terms of rides. So a good first step, but they are still well behind in terms of a more desirable destination for families.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Coaster316 at 2/15/12 9:34:44 AM

Didn't take long...diving horse scratched.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasantville_brigantine/steel-pier-owners-scrap-plans-to-bring-diving-horse-back/article_a19c4e32-5739-11e1-be73-0019bb2963f4.html

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by CoasterFanatic CoasterFanatic Profile at 2/15/12 9:48:03 AM

> > Another plus is that an addition like this will
> put a
> little heat on Morey's Piers. While they have worked over
> the years to improve infrastructure and added smaller
> rides, they haven't really added a major attraction since
> 1996, when Great White opened, with the acception of maybe
> the drop tower. Maybe they'll get moving on that new wooden
> coaster...

> You joking right? Steel pier could never compete or even
> take away visitors from Moreys.

> No... I'm not kidding. The current Steel Pier can not
> compete with Morey's. This proposed new Steel Pier
> (combined with casino gambling) could draw many away from
> Wildwood.

> Patripman brings up a lot of valid points, though. Atlantic
> City is a dying town ever since PA and others added
> casinos. I'd hate to see it get worse than it is.

> Like I said before, I hope this new Steel Pier comes to
> fruition, and I hope it and Atlantic City are successful.

I'll just say this much, It'll take more than a big ferris wheel and drop tower to get me back and the only redeeming ride it had was a spinny mouse that didn't spin. I didn't even notice how bad the area was right off the strip till I seen hookers and delapitaded buildings with live sex shows in neon on the one way street out of town. Felt fine in the Casino and even on the Pier but you mean to tell me the Billions spent there can't level it for a park or something?

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by CoasterFanatic CoasterFanatic Profile at 2/15/12 9:50:58 AM

> I have to agree with fanatic here, Morey's has 3 packed
> piers of attractions. Steel pier will need to match them in
> terms of rides. So a good first step, but they are still
> well behind in terms of a more desirable destination for
> families.

Exactly, they might get a Biggest this or that, but there is no way they will get a hundred rides and slides and another hundred cheap eateries and games. Hell we stayed till 2am and played Facination at the Moreys and the whole day cost us 50 bucks each including food and games. Atlantic City cost me 75 and that was a half hour on the pier and a dinner at the Hardrock.

AC, No redeeming qualities, Whatsoever.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Coaster316 at 2/15/12 10:03:42 AM

CoasterFanatic wrote:

"...I seen hookers and delapitaded buildings with live sex shows in neon..."

He then wrote:

"AC, No redeeming qualities, Whatsoever."

.
.

Seems a bit contradictory, doesn't it?

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 2/15/12 1:25:35 PM

> Didn't take long...diving horse scratched.

That's actually a good thing, speaking as a veterinarian.

Speaking as an enthusiast - AC will never compete with Morey's. AC is for adults who want to gamble, party and make bad decisions. Morey's is for families, children, teenagers, adults etc, and offers great entertainment without the imminent feeling of getting carjacked on your ride home. Can't even compare the beaches either - Wildwood wins hands down. I think the pier at AC will do well and may draw more people who want to go gamble but have children since it will have something for the kids to do now, but as far as taking customers from Morey's, no. I can't see many people going to AC unless they want to gamble. Just going for the pier is not going to happen if your not a local.

Jen

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by CoasterFanatic CoasterFanatic Profile at 2/15/12 3:38:01 PM

> CoasterFanatic wrote:

> "...I seen hookers and delapitaded buildings with
> live sex shows in neon..."

> He then wrote:

> "AC, No redeeming qualities, Whatsoever."

> .
> .

> Seems a bit contradictory, doesn't it?

>
If thats your thing.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by drachen drachen Profile at 2/15/12 5:47:22 PM

> Didn't take long...diving horse scratched.

> That's actually a good thing, speaking as a veterinarian.

Bad thing for me... I'm no proponent of animal cruelty, but I've always been fascinated by this old act, but have only ever seen it in photos. I would have liked to have seen one in person. For me, it speaks to the ability of the horses to perform such a feat.

> Speaking as an enthusiast - AC will never compete with
> Morey's.

Of course it won't from a park fan's standpoint. I'm the biggest Morey's fan I know, and for me, few things compare to the rides and atmosphere down on the Wildwood boardwalk.

Having said that, in the competition for local New Jerseyan dollars, this re-done Steel Pier certainly can compete.

If you live in the area and want to go ride some rides, the new Steel Pier will have two roller coasters, a 385 foot swing ride, and a 250 ft ferris wheel, among other rides, and will probably be a cheaper price point. And to boot, you can go gamble when your done. And to re-boot... parts of it will be open year-round.

I remember a number of years back when Wildwood was trying to get casinos. Atlantic City raised a stink, and it never happened. I'm so glad it didn't. Wildwood has become a great, safe family destination, which it otherwise likely wouldn't be if the casinos worked out.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 2/15/12 6:25:12 PM

> Didn't take long...diving horse scratched.

> That's actually a good thing, speaking as a veterinarian.

> Bad thing for me... I'm no proponent of animal cruelty, but
> I've always been fascinated by this old act, but have only
> ever seen it in photos. I would have liked to have seen one
> in person. For me, it speaks to the ability of the horses
> to perform such a feat.

Those horses were prodded most of the time to get them to jump and suffered many life-ending injuries as a result of their weight, fragile bone structure and jumping into only 10 feet of water. The horses weren't "performing" a natural ability. It was cruel and inhumane and would never be allowed in today's world with all of the laws protecting animals anyway. I'm surprised they even attempted this.

Jen

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 2/16/12 5:53:46 PM

I'm no peta supporter, but I am glad they are scrapping that horse diving idea. That is just inhumane to have a horse dive into a pool like that repeatedly.
=
As for Steel Pier, with the stuff they have now, it isn't really worth the price it costs. Last time I was in 2003, The wild mouse coaster was 7 credits. I can only imagine that it's gone up since.
AC needs to emulate Las Vegas more, have curbside attractions, shows, fine dinning, retail space (tearing down that ocean pier mall was a mistake). A few more rides won't change a thing for AC.

Even in Queens, New York there's a casino, why would I need to go to AC if I can get to Queens a few minutes away and Coney Island a few bus rides away?

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by beastmaster beastmaster Profile at 2/16/12 6:35:06 PM

> tearing
> down that ocean pier mall was a mistake

Unless I completely missed something the last several years (and, granted, I rarely go to AC anymore)..it was not torn down. Redone, remodeled, gone upscale, yes. Torn down? I don't think so.

Mike

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 2/16/12 7:27:21 PM

Oh ok, last time i was there it was closed and I thought it was torn down. I stand corrected.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Coaster316 at 2/17/12 8:51:36 AM

A/C certainly has an uphill battle ahead of it. I hope it succeeds.

The Steel Pier upgrade is only a part of the current plans. The new Revel casino opens this spring with a focus on hip night spots, Bally's Wild West just announced some major changes, the old Hilton is rebranding itself and targeting locals, another casino on the other end of the boardwalk is trying to go younger, I believe there's a new shopping district being planned off-boardwalk, etc.

A/C will not get back to where they were in gambling revenues. Its just not going to happen. They went from a near-monopoly to a saturated marketplace. The hardcore gamblers are still going to go. The "casual regulars" will not. That leaves the non-gamblers who will go to A/C because it has other attractions/entertainment and will gamble because it happens to have casinos as the city's marketing focus.

- Jeff

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by drachen drachen Profile at 2/18/12 11:43:14 AM

> A/C certainly has an uphill battle ahead of it. I hope it
> succeeds.

Agreed. It is a neat place. I love Las Vegas, and even though AC can't compare, it does have that Vegas feel, but much closer to home, and with an ocean next door.

> The Steel Pier upgrade is only a part of the current plans.
> The new Revel casino opens this spring with a focus on hip
> night spots, Bally's Wild West just announced some major
> changes, the old Hilton is rebranding itself and targeting
> locals, another casino on the other end of the boardwalk is
> trying to go younger, I believe there's a new shopping
> district being planned off-boardwalk, etc.

The state of NJ is very involved with working to resurrect AC too. I agree that there needs to be more to do there than gambling, as you can do that almost anywhere now.

> A/C will not get back to where they were in gambling
> revenues. Its just not going to happen. They went from a
> near-monopoly to a saturated marketplace. The hardcore
> gamblers are still going to go. The "casual
> regulars" will not. That leaves the non-gamblers who
> will go to A/C because it has other
> attractions/entertainment and will gamble because it
> happens to have casinos as the city's marketing focus.

I agree and disagree here. Opening table games in PA and Delaware has crippled Atlantic City's gaming industry. But I don't think the remedy is to stop developing the gaming/hotel industry. Rather, they need to take it to the next level.

AC needs to turn the corner on safety first of all. The boardwalk just doesn't feel safe at night, and it's even worse when you get just a few block away. That needs to change.

Then there needs to be an influx of mega-resorts, much like Revel. You need to cater to the high-rollers, and make those who don't have that kind of money feel like high rollers. That's something that the PA and DE casinos can't do.

Despite the other properties' struggles, the gorgeous Borgorta has seemingly continued to thrive. Mega-resorts can bring in big name shows, like Vegas. Heck, get a Cirque show or something to draw people to your hotel.

Developing the areas around the boardwalk will go a long way toward pushing the riff-raff out of town, making it safer to simply walk the boardwalk.

That's the route Vegas took that started with Steve Wynn buiding the Mirage. While new development in Vegas has slowed to a hault, most of those mega-resorts are making money again.

There is a large "high-roller" crowd in New York. You need to keep them from getting on a plane to Vegas, and have them take the train or car to AC. You do that with high-end dining, shopping, shows, and hotel amenities.

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Patripman Patripman Profile at 2/18/12 9:51:44 PM

> AC needs to turn the corner on safety first of all. The
> boardwalk just doesn't feel safe at night, and it's even
> worse when you get just a few block away. That needs to
> change.

Crime will never stop in AC and the main reason is it attracts all the locals and those who are bent on taking advantage of those who are in town for a few days. You want to talk about crime and it wasn't mentioned here is Wildwood. Wildwood believe it or not has a very high year round crime rate that normally goes unnoticed.

> Then there needs to be an influx of mega-resorts, much like
> Revel. You need to cater to the high-rollers, and make
> those who don't have that kind of money feel like high
> rollers. That's something that the PA and DE casinos can't
> do.

The days of any resort being built after Revel will never happen. There was plans to build a Hard Rock casino/hotel south of the Hilton, which does not make any sense since people normally stop at the Trop and go no further.

> Despite the other properties' struggles, the gorgeous
> Borgorta has seemingly continued to thrive. Mega-resorts
> can bring in big name shows, like Vegas. Heck, get a Cirque
> show or something to draw people to your hotel.

Lets see what Borgata does after Revel opens. Borgata's numbers though not as bad as others is not making it in that market. Several of the investors and owners have pulled out of the operation and I dont think they can stand another hit on the investments.

> Developing the areas around the boardwalk will go a long
> way toward pushing the riff-raff out of town, making it
> safer to simply walk the boardwalk.

That is what needs to happen but will never happen. The private owners want big $$$$$ for their land and who is going to risk millions for a spot of land that may never see a profit. Remember when a family held out when the Trop wanted to expand, they wanted millions of dollars for land that wanst worth nickels. The casino built around and over the property. Also if you look at what is going on today in AC many of the long term eateries and shops are shutting down due to no business.

> That's the route Vegas took that started with Steve Wynn
> buiding the Mirage. While new development in Vegas has
> slowed to a hault, most of those mega-resorts are making
> money again.

Please dont compare Vegas to AC, that is a slap in the face to Vegas.

> There is a large "high-roller" crowd in New York.
> You need to keep them from getting on a plane to Vegas, and
> have them take the train or car to AC. You do that with
> high-end dining, shopping, shows, and hotel amenities.

If this was the case about high end dining etc then why is the Pier Shops in bankruptcy and if you look closer most of the high limits gambling rooms are empty. The high roller even in Vegas is a limited niche market for casinos today. There was a period of time between 1992 and 2003 when the high roller was king of the casino but not any longer.

I have said this time after time AC is it's own enemy. They changed the smoking policy to 25% of the casino floor, mistake number 1.
They meaning the casinos and city have not controlled the panhandling and third world feeling along the boardwalk. You cannot expect people to vacation in a place where kids are banging buckets and pots and pans for money or the common sight of someone digging in the trash cans looking for food. I can run off a list of more bad than good regarding AC. All I will say they need to get their act together to bring back the masses, in my opinion that will not happen anytime soon.

Patripman

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 2/19/12 1:00:13 PM
Patripman said:

> AC needs to turn the corner on safety first of all. The
> boardwalk just doesn't feel safe at night, and it's even
> worse when you get just a few block away. That needs to
> change.

Crime will never stop in AC and the main reason is it attracts all the locals and those who are bent on taking advantage of those who are in town for a few days. You want to talk about crime and it wasn't mentioned here is Wildwood. Wildwood believe it or not has a very high year round crime rate that normally goes unnoticed.

But there is a difference between "seasonal" crime, such as theft, alcohol induced incidents (fights, etc) that inflate the crime rates and violent crime such as car jackings and murder. Look at the statistics - no comparison. I'm certainly not afraid to walk around Wildwood at night but AC is a different story.

http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/new-jersey/wildwood.html

http://www.cityrating.com/crime-statistics/new-jersey/atlantic-city.html

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/communities/atlantic-city_pleasantville_brigantine/violent-crime-rate-higher-in-atlantic-city-than-in-other/article_b3e19716-e716-11e0-ac2c-001cc4c03286.html

Jen

Re: Steel Pier Atlantic City...$100 Million Upgrade by Coaster316 at 2/22/12 8:39:44 AM

> AC needs to turn the corner on safety first of all. The
> boardwalk just doesn't feel safe at night, and it's even
> worse when you get just a few block away. That needs to
> change.

Agree here. AC could really turn into a great nightlife if people felt safer once it gets dark. I know I've personally never ventured onto the boardwalk at night.

> Then there needs to be an influx of mega-resorts, much like
> Revel. You need to cater to the high-rollers, and make
> those who don't have that kind of money feel like high
> rollers. That's something that the PA and DE casinos can't
> do.

I think rather than an influx of mega-resorts, the existing resorts should work on their own images. Caesar's and Bally's should work together on becoming one big mega-resort type, which I would love to see Bally's removal of a gaming area be the first step toward.

> Despite the other properties' struggles, the gorgeous
> Borgorta has seemingly continued to thrive. Mega-resorts
> can bring in big name shows, like Vegas. Heck, get a Cirque
> show or something to draw people to your hotel.

Getting any of the existing casinos to open a marquee Cirque-style "home" show would be a big step. Definitely agree on that part. I mentioned in my post that putting in non-gambling things would attract some people and those people will end up gambling anyway, but your point on keeping the high rollers is also a good point.

- Jeff