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Coaster Marathoning

alpengeistno3

Posted:
10/13/11 at
12:15:23 AM

Jen's reply gave me idea to start a thread on this. What is your most memorable "unofficial" marathon any particular coaster?

Rough steel coasters have never fazed me, so the ones that come to mind are:

"Oucher" Limits (with OTSR) for 30 times straight one morning while everyone was rushing to Volcano.

Scream Machine 37 times on opening day (the crew was egging me on once I got to 20)

Drachen Fire 72 times when mom and I stayed in a timeshare in Williamsburg. It wasn't a true marathon since I took an hour break for lunch around 5:00 and had to walk around several times due to "someone being in my line," but is the only time I have ever dedicated a full park day to just one ride.

Paul

Re: Coaster Marathoning by beastmaster beastmaster Profile at 10/13/11 6:21:28 AM

90 rides on El Toro Easter Sunday 2010, including 73 without leaving the station.

63 rides on Steel Force for the Coasting For Kids charity event at Dorney this past July 24.

50 rides on Voyage over 2 days in June of '07.

Those are the ones that stick with me. I've had other marathons of 25-50 or so in one day/one session on various rides.

Mike

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Re: Coaster Marathoning by mugen828 mugen828 Profile at 10/13/11 8:04:52 AM

August 15th, 2011 - 52 rides on Nitro on completely "dead" day at Great Adventure this year. My endurance was really tested this day hahaha. An hour break was taken during this and we did have to leave the station and go around a few times. I believe we did have 20+ without leaving the station though.

June 17th, 2011 - I had 37 rides on Nitro and in the same day me and a friend rode El Toro 10 times without getting off the train at the start of the day :D

- mugen

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@alepngeist and Beastmaster, whoa! some nice numbers there!!

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Re: Coaster Marathoning by KHTOExtreme at 10/13/11 11:48:39 AM

All were done at Cedar Point.

2009 Coasting for Kids Gemini Marathon 109 times with no engaging of the mid-course brake run or the trim before the final helix.

2010 Coasting for Kids Gemini Marathon 134 times. This year mid-course brake run was not engaged but the helix trim was active and to tell you the truth that trim makes it so much nicer.

2011 Coasting for Kids Magnum Marathon 2 hours 25 times. (20) laps were the full beast of the ride with the trim before the pretzel turn was dis-engaged.

2011 Coasting for Kids Gemini Marathon 7 hours 85 times.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by frontrow frontrow Profile at 10/13/11 12:21:08 PM

Nessie at BG in the late 80's: 156 times in 5 days
Jack Rabbit at Kennywood in early 90's: 40 times in 1 day
Diamondback at KI 2010: 26 times in a day
Thunderhead at DW 2010: 20 times in a day
Kentucky Rumbler at BB 2011: 20 times in a day
MF at Cedar Point 2001: 20 times in a day
Raptor at CP on the same day as MF marathon: 25 rides
Montu at BG in 2001: 16 times in a day
Goliath at SFOG in 2010: 12 times in a day
Voyage at HW in 2009: 10 times in a day
Hades at Mt. Olympus in 2011: 10 times in a day
Ravine Flyer II in 2011: 11 times in a day
Apollos Chariot in 2000: 10 times in a day
Behemoth at CW in 2010: 10 times in a day
Intimadator at Carowinds in 2010: 10 times in a day
Phantoms Revenge in 2001: 15 times in a day
Lightning Racer in 2000: 12 times in a day
Comet at HP in late 80's: 100 times in 3 days

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Katie Katie Profile at 10/13/11 12:47:52 PM

> 2009 Coasting for Kids Gemini Marathon 109 times with no
> engaging of the mid-course brake run or the trim before the
> final helix.

My husband was at that marathon. I think he said he got around 100 rides as well. He had a great time!

Re: Coaster Marathoning by beastmaster beastmaster Profile at 10/13/11 1:00:45 PM

> 2009 Coasting for Kids Gemini Marathon 109 times with no
> engaging of the mid-course brake run or the trim before the
> final helix.

> My husband was at that marathon. I think he said he got
> around 100 rides as well. He had a great time!

This year was my first time doing CFK, and I had a blast! Raised over $800. Hoping to do it again next year and maybe break the $1000 barrier.

Mike

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Streaker Streaker Profile at 10/13/11 3:55:43 PM

Some of your counts are staggering and mind blowing and I'm seriously jealous LOL.

I've had a few unoffical marathons over the years, but none quite as noteworthy as those I've rea in the post. All of mine are in the range of 10-25 rides on one coaster throughout the course of one day with some, but not all, consecutive rides. Because it didn't happen often I was simply able to keep a running count in my head.

In recent years a few of my marathons that stand out would be:
BoulderDash (about 20 rides)
Nitro (about 15 rides)
El Torro (about 15 rides)
Lightening Racer (about 15 rides)
SROS - SFAM (about 25 rides)
Apollos Charriott (about 20 rides)
Voyage (about 25 rides)
Timber Terror (about 15 rides)
Steel Force (about 12 rides)
Excellerator (about 20 rides)

Im curious to know how do each of you keep track of your (much higher than mine) marathon counts? For example, do you keep a running count in your head, or do you keep a running tally on a note pad, or do you note it on your smartphone or is a non riding person counting for you?

-Streaker-

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Re: Coaster Marathoning by beastmaster beastmaster Profile at 10/13/11 4:22:34 PM

>

> Im curious to know how do each of you keep track of your
> (much higher than mine) marathon counts? For example, do
> you keep a running count in your head, or do you keep a
> running tally on a note pad, or do you note it on your
> smartphone or is a non riding person counting for you?

> -Streaker-

>
All up here (taps temple.) Sometimes I might lose "TRACK" (ouch, I know, bad) and be off by one or two. I have seen people do the other things you mentioned, though, notably at Coasting For Kids.

Mike

Re: Coaster Marathoning by alpengeistno3 at 10/13/11 5:54:40 PM

> Im curious to know how do each of you keep track of your
> (much higher than mine) marathon counts? For example, do
> you keep a running count in your head, or do you keep a
> running tally on a note pad, or do you note it on your
> smartphone or is a non riding person counting for you?

> -Streaker-

I used to count on my fingers. Left hand for ones, right hand for multiples of 10. It wasn't hard to do when riding alone.

Nowadays, I just use a park map (really nice when they have the ride requirements for each ride so you can just draw a tick every 5 or 10 rides.

Paul

Re: Coaster Marathoning by chitlins73 chitlins73 Profile at 10/13/11 7:31:30 PM

I am curious if anyone feels the same way I do.I try not to do any marathons on coasters.Usually when I go to a park,I try to hit each coaster once and then if there is time,I will hit my favorites again once or twice more.I don't like to marathon because I always feel like I will become immune to the ride.I already rarely get the wee feeling anymore in my stomach.I just don't want some of my favorite coasters like Nitro and El Toro to get boring and lackluster to me.In other words,I try to keep it new and exciting.Is there anybody else who feels the way I do?

Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 10/13/11 8:40:28 PM

> I am curious if anyone feels the same way I do.I try not to
> do any marathons on coasters.Usually when I go to a park,I
> try to hit each coaster once and then if there is time,I
> will hit my favorites again once or twice more.I don't like
> to marathon because I always feel like I will become immune
> to the ride.I already rarely get the wee feeling anymore in
> my stomach.I just don't want some of my favorite coasters
> like Nitro and El Toro to get boring and lackluster to
> me.In other words,I try to keep it new and exciting.Is
> there anybody else who feels the way I do?

Yep! I do!

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by chitlins73 chitlins73 Profile at 10/13/11 11:04:17 PM

Nice to know I am not alone on this island Jen,lol.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by alpengeistno3 at 10/14/11 2:41:45 AM

Well, I started marathoning as a mean of simple logistics. BGE is a pretty big park with (at the time) only 3 coasters. It really didn't make sense to ride Drachen Fire, then Big Bad, then Loch Ness then double back again endlessly. Once the popularity of Drachen Fire waned, I would simply stay there until the lines for the other coasters became manageable (usually after 8:00).

Now, I like to ride multiple times to get a good read on a ride. I've ridden Drachen Fire so many time, I can ride it in my head with every bump and jolt any time I wanted, even 10 years after it was taken down. As long as the lines are short, I try to dedicate an hour to each ride or leave once it gets longer than 5 mins (10 mins for a top tier ride). Puts less wear and tear on my feet from walking around the park plus riding beats walking the midways any day :)

I never find myself getting bored with a ride. I experience something new with every lap, even sitting in the same seat (the back).

Needless to say, I hate crowded days at parks as all this is out the window, but even on the busiest days, it can be possible snag a couple of short-wait rides in the "pocket" where crowds move from on area to another.

Paul

Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 10/14/11 10:12:15 AM

> I never find myself getting bored with a ride. I experience
> something new with every lap, even sitting in the same seat
> (the back).

> Paul

I get less bored if I get off and on a coaster than I do with consecutive rides. When we rode Nitro 3 times last weekend I was fine (got off and on) but for me Nitro is more of a relaxing ride and I love the weightlessness you feel and the scenery which you will get on every ride. As far as El Toro, I love the adrenaline rush, that first drop and the last drop are my favorite and that gets old for some reason if you do it too many times. So I guess it also depends on the coaster for me.

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by AndyShine at 11/29/11 10:59:45 AM

I understand this thread concerns 'unofficial' marathoning. However, I will just say that in 2000, I and four others rode the Big Dipper at BPB for 2 days and 2 nights for Give Kids The World.

Until that point, I honestly thought I could ride coasters indefinitely, I never contemplated getting sick on the coaster. However, after just 4 hours of riding, I became ill with motion sickness... and this persisted throughout the marathon.

I was (embarrassingly) the only marathoner to get sick, I didn't eat a thing or drink a thing during the event, but would probably do the whole thing again - should the opportunity present itself.

A.S.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 12/4/11 11:28:05 PM

Having at least a moderately filled stomach is a must if you plan on riding extreme rides for extended periods of time.

Empty stomach = 'protein spills'. Learned that the hard way few months ago. Never got sick at all, but few rides on the 'spin and puke' flat rides was enough to make me ill. Been so long ago I was that sick, i can't even recall anymore [at least maybe 10~ yrs ago].

Re: Coaster Marathoning by ktujon ktujon Profile at 8/19/13 10:20:34 PM
Completed my Superman Ride of Steel marathon at Six Flags America today: started at 12:20pm, had a couple consecutives but by ride 17 and 18 around 3pm seemed to be peak time had to wait two trains since only the red was running. After 18 there was a one train delay for maintenance to come and restart the ride with an empty train. By then it was smooth sailing, a few others including an offduty park op was doing consecutives he kept pointing out you can see the monument in the distance. Finished ride 30 at 5pm I kept count by holding up my fingers during the ride, the last few rides on those last hills I could feel them stabbing my gut, finally went to the bathroom from holding it in after all those rides!
Re: Coaster Marathoning by AngryGumball AngryGumball Profile at 8/19/13 10:43:05 PM
Technically I had to get back in line but when California's Great America (CGA) was doing the Gold Striker promotional shoots (a good month before it even opened to the general public). I spent 2 weeks riding it after work...Tuesday-Thursday I would head there and get in about an average of 8 rides in the 3 hour window. In the end, I rode Gold Striker over 50 times before it even opened to the public.

My highest dosage of coaster marathoning back-to-back was Flight Deck at CGA, 30 minutes of ERT on it...got 12 rides (without leaving seat) on it and could have gone even more! Behind that is Gold Striker where I got 11 rides in on it within a 3 hour window during a pass holder ERT session.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by antikythera antikythera Profile at 8/19/13 11:19:14 PM
Officially, I marathoned with other coaster enthusiasts when I went to Cedar Point in late May for Platinum Pass night. They opened up Millenium Force since GateKeeper was closed for it's ERT. I got 12 rides in an hour, never having to leave the station, although I did have to get out since it dumps you out before.

Unofficially, I marathoned Superman at SFA for about 12 rides in an hour and a half before I had to get going. I really wanted to stay all day and see if I could make the record. I don't feel like there are too many enthusiasts for SFA, so I wanted to see if I could make a record or something. The ride ops just kept looking at me like I was s sad sole because I kept riding alone.

I'm like others though. I like marathoning but I actually become bored after a while before hitting my second wind.

Superman has a warm place in my heart, so that's why I felt like I could have gone all day. Don't know if I could do the same for other coasters.

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Re: Coaster Marathoning by singemfrc at 8/20/13 12:23:27 AM
Some people will find it hard to believe but I marathoned Manhattan Express at the New York New York in Vegas. Yep, I marathoned a Togo coaster. Why on earth would I submit myself to such pain? Truthfully, it wasn't that bad and I like to think I'm pretty good at riding rough coasters. I'm the guy who actually likes Kong at SFDK. It's also worth noting that I flew all the way to Vegas to find the entire Adventure dome closed for maintenance so with Canyon Blaster out I got my money's worth out of Vegas' only other coaster :)
Re: Coaster Marathoning by JeffyJosephNCali JeffyJosephNCali Profile at 8/20/13 4:06:31 AM
The most I ever did on one coaster was Tidal Wave/Greased Lightnin' at CGA 40 times in a row, of course it helped that there no line at all. During the Gold Striker Promo shoots as AngryGumball said, we got to average about 8 rides a day during the 7 days of shoots. Also at SFMM I was able to do 10 rides in a row on Goliath (with 1 train op) during my weekday trek in April.
Re: Coaster Marathoning by beastmaster beastmaster Profile at 8/20/13 8:56:58 AM
I don't marathon as much as did in recent years. It takes a lot out of me, and as I've gotten older, my so-called body sometimes says "Stop it, for Pete's sake!"

I don't listen to that voice at Coasting For Kids. I got over 80 rides this year on Talon, Hydra, and Steel Force.

The reasons I was able to do 30 laps on Blue Streak at Conneaut last week are that often I didn't have to get off the train, and when I did, the entrance and exit are closer to one another than any coaster I've ever seen. And those 30 rides were not consecutive.

I mentioned early in this thread my 90 laps on Toro a few years back. I'm not sure I could do that now.
88, maybe :)

Mike

The amusement park rises bold and stark
Kids are huddled on the beach in a mist...
Re: Coaster Marathoning by PkD4Life PkD4Life Profile at 8/20/13 9:01:36 AM
I guess not a true marathon but opening year at KD when 305 opened...so of course the old hard restraints...we got in a total of 15 rides with us getting off the ride, walking around, then back in line and off again. So it was 15 rides with just a walk around. That was the first time I have ever been to a park and left with bruises on my shoulders.

Lee

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Coaster316 at 8/20/13 11:37:27 AM
I used to love Sunday mornings at Kings Dominion on either Rebel Yell or Grizzly. Used to be able to get a couple of dozen rides on them before crowds started showing up (in the spring or fall).

Perhaps the goofiest unplanned marathon I had was on the Grizzly at what is now California's Great America. It was my only time at the park and I had enjoyed the ride earlier in the day. Got on it with about an hour to go before park closing and literally was the only person on the ride for the last half hour. Eventually, on one trip I returned to the station to see security standing there and they escorted me off the ride and to the exit. Not in a bad way, he was very pleasant, but I often wonder if they thought I was messed up. (insert yes you are if you want to ride the CGA Grizzly for an hour joke here)

Re: Coaster Marathoning by beastmaster beastmaster Profile at 8/20/13 12:01:18 PM
Two questions:

Was the park officially closed at the time you were escorted off and out?

I love KD's Grizzly, but is the CA version really as bad as people make it out to be?

Mike

The amusement park rises bold and stark
Kids are huddled on the beach in a mist...
Re: Coaster Marathoning by Coaster316 at 8/20/13 1:13:55 PM
Rides were closed but shops were open and people were stilling hanging out, if you know what I mean. The guy just walked with me down to the exit of the ride, asked me if I actually enjoyed it and then wished me well.

I really didn't think Grizzly was "bad" as much as it was just "not that good" if that makes sense. I got no roughness or anything that would make it an unenjoyable experience. It just doesn't do much. I remember commenting at the time that it was just like KD's Grizzly if you replace all of the hills on the Virginia version with ramps.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by JeffyJosephNCali JeffyJosephNCali Profile at 8/20/13 2:51:19 PM
Having worked and supervised Grizzly at CGA for 2 seasons, during closing time, security always started their "park sweep" at the Grizzly since it's at the very back of the park.

I think the reason why Grizzly gets a bad rap in the coaster community is because it's just boring, though the general public loves it as it is a good starting coaster. I know KD's Grizzly is a near mirror image, but CGA's version is completely toned down. Another huge difference from KD's are the trains and restraints. KD's have individual lap bars from what I've seen in pictures, while CGA's has shared lap bars which are connected to the front and back of each car, so when someone pulls it down the other goes down too. Even now when my group goes to the park, the only time we'll ride it is if it's a walk on as operations are truly horrendous not to mention the extra seatbelts attached to the lapbars, leading to slow as molasses dispatches.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 8/20/13 3:19:17 PM
JeffyJosephNCali said:

Having worked and supervised Grizzly at CGA for 2 seasons, during closing time, security always started their "park sweep" at the Grizzly since it's at the very back of the park.


I think the reason why Grizzly gets a bad rap in the coaster community is because it's just boring, though the general public loves it as it is a good starting coaster. I know KD's Grizzly is a near mirror image, but CGA's version is completely toned down. Another huge difference from KD's are the trains and restraints. KD's have individual lap bars from what I've seen in pictures, while CGA's has shared lap bars which are connected to the front and back of each car, so when someone pulls it down the other goes down too. Even now when my group goes to the park, the only time we'll ride it is if it's a walk on as operations are truly horrendous not to mention the extra seatbelts attached to the lapbars, leading to slow as molasses dispatches.

I'd probably like it better since I HATE the KD version - I got more bruises from that car accident of a ride than from Anaconda (although got more permanent head and neck injuries from the latter, LOL!). I thought it was rough, wild and painful.

You guys are new here so to fill you in I hate the rough, overbanked woodies with no hills. If there are decent hills I will gladly tolerate discomfort. I live for the "wee" feeling in the stomach and air time. Overbanked woodies give me none of those. ;-)

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Schrecken Schrecken Profile at 8/20/13 4:17:20 PM
My marathoning pales in comparison to some what you guys have done, but I'd say my personal best is 32 times in one day on Goliath at SFMM (it was the media day for the ride), and then 23 times on the original X at the same park (also a media day).

Since then, I've never been able to do more than maybe 10 or 12 times a day, even if there is an event (like ACE ERT) that would allow lots of rides. My reasons for not being able to marathon much is either due to the roughness/intensity of a particular coaster (i.e, Voyage at HW) or other irritating things that crop up like indigestion, which often leads to getting sick at the stomach (even though I wear a motion sickness patch).

I got really p.o'd the last time I had ERT on El Toro when I got some serious stomach issues (in that case it was due to me being hungry and having an empty stomach) and had to bow out early, so I only got maybe 8 rides or so.

Other dampers on marathoning are when you have a coaster that has a long entrance/exit and you have to walk all the way around each time (which really sucks for events where they let you ride over and over, and still make you do that and not let you stay on the platform or change seats). In addition, being hot and tired can make it hard to marathon on certain coasters as well.

I am hoping to do better than 10 or 12 times when I go back to HP this fall to marathon on Skyrush (yes, some here will call me crazy!), I'm hoping maybe I can get close to 20 times if I can catch a day with minimal crowds and no weather problems. Also, hopefully I can go to the ACE event at SF Great Adventure this fall, (even if El Toro is down - if not I hope I can do more than 8 times) and do some marathoning on Nitro and maybe KK if El Toro is still down. I did TTD 9 times in a row one night at CP Coastermania so I know I'd be good for at least that on KK.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by JeffyJosephNCali JeffyJosephNCali Profile at 8/20/13 4:34:14 PM
GoYanks34 said:
You guys are new here so to fill you in I hate the rough, overbanked woodies with no hills. If there are decent hills I will gladly tolerate discomfort. I live for the "wee" feeling in the stomach and air time. Overbanked woodies give me none of those. ;-)

Jen

I think you'll love Gold Striker then, I've counted 14 pops of airtime galore and it hauls major butt from start to finish! During the less busy days you can definitely marathon it! :)

Re: Coaster Marathoning by ktujon ktujon Profile at 8/20/13 5:11:19 PM
Speaking of Skyrush, I got in 11 rides with my preview plan from 8:30-11p last month! (the rain made me delay an hour) I hope to marathon it some more on a regular day! I also squeezed in 13 rides of Ka 8:30-10p on a Sunday night back in June after it rained all day!
Re: Coaster Marathoning by alpengeistno3 at 8/20/13 9:47:03 PM
Well, when I started this thread SO LONG AGO, I was referring to riding continuously during operating hours. Nonetheless, I did manage 19 rides on Skyrush for the taping of Insane Coaster Wars (I missed the 1st 2 rides since they would not allow anyone in the back row while the camera was set up for the official "taping" ride. The rest were all in the back, most on the right wing. You can see me in the light blue shirt in the clip they used over and over again of the turn into the final bunny hops.

I think that was my limit because I said if I got to 20, I was getting off. I was starting to turn awfully green by that 19th ride.

Paul

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Coaster316 at 8/23/13 1:52:28 PM
I was feeling a bit nostalgic after posting in this topic and I went through the great URC archives to find my original trip report from my day at Great America. Here's an excerpt regarding the Grizzly.

"When I walked up to the ride for my first time, I was excited. The ride kind of looked like my beloved PKD Grizzly. The sign was similar. Then I climbed up to the station and into the train.

The basic design of the PGA Grizzly is the same as the PKD version with one major exception. Take the “hills” from PKD and replace them with “ramps”. It takes away the thrill. However, don’t let that distract from my overall opinion of the ride.

I liked it. I really liked it.

In fact, I went back to the Grizzly with an hour until park closing, climbed aboard one of the trains, and didn’t get out until the park closed. For the final 4 or 5 rides, it was just me in the train.

With the exception of parts of the run to the lift hill and the bottom of the first drop, the Grizzly wasn’t rough at all. I think it tracked very well. It was fun.

Was it a great thrill ride? Absolutely not. In fact, despite my glowing report and fun-filled marathon, I would probably rank Grizzly near the bottom of my wood coaster list if I ranked that far. I just happen to like wooden coasters.

But the point is that something hit me right with the ride. Maybe it was the similarity to my favorite coaster. Maybe it was simply the fact that I was on a vacation rather than a “coaster trip”. Maybe it was some other factor. Whatever it was, I climbed aboard the Grizzly and literally didn’t leave until security came and got me. (either it was routine or he just happened to be there, but he escorted me off of the ride at closing and closed the queue behind me)."

Re: Coaster Marathoning by singemfrc at 8/25/13 6:36:58 PM
I just rode Kong three times in a row. If you don't think that's a marathon, well then you've probably never ridden Kong :-D
Re: Coaster Marathoning by HamptonRoadsRider HamptonRoadsRider Profile at 8/25/13 11:36:34 PM
chitlins73 said:

I am curious if anyone feels the same way I do.I try not to do any marathons on coasters.Usually when I go to a park,I try to hit each coaster once and then if there is time,I will hit my favorites again once or twice more.I don't like to marathon because I always feel like I will become immune to the ride.I already rarely get the wee feeling anymore in my stomach.I just don't want some of my favorite coasters like Nitro and El Toro to get boring and lackluster to me.In other words,I try to keep it new and exciting.Is there anybody else who feels the way I do?

Yup me too. Even parks ive been to many times ill spread it out. Plus being with family and all does not go well with coaster marathoning..although i think my daughter is down for a marathon or two next time.

That said, after a rainstorm at BGW, an ex and I rode apollos chariot and Griffon (opening year) at least 5 times each back to back...apollo in the rain in the front seat hurts by the way!! We both called in sick the next day due to vertigo/nausea type issues, lightweights!!!

Re: Coaster Marathoning by antikythera antikythera Profile at 8/26/13 12:04:13 AM
I contemplated marathoning Batwing this morning. It was running pretty well and it wasn't backing up as usual. Although I was enjoying myself, I stopped after two. All that pressure on your ankles kind of gets to you.
Re: Coaster Marathoning by chitlins73 chitlins73 Profile at 8/26/13 7:42:12 AM
Last night at Busch Gardens I actually got to marathon Apollo's Chariot. This seems to be the only coaster I ever have a chance to marathon. I love this coaster at night!! This is right up there with Nitro!! After last night,I am not sure which one I like better. I know they are the top 2 B&M hypers for me!! I think I got 7 rides in at night. I am not usually into marathoning but those hypers are so smooth and easy to ride over and over again.
Re: Coaster Marathoning by beastmaster beastmaster Profile at 8/26/13 9:12:08 AM
I could probably marathon AC. 'Course, I might fall asleep. The ride is that boring to me. I don't think it's in the class of Nitro/Intimidator Carowinds.

Mike

The amusement park rises bold and stark
Kids are huddled on the beach in a mist...
Re: Coaster Marathoning by RobLec RobLec Profile at 8/26/13 2:43:02 PM
beastmaster said:

I could probably marathon AC. 'Course, I might fall asleep. The ride is that boring to me. I don't think it's in the class of Nitro/Intimidator Carowinds.

Yeah, but it was hot, hot, HOT ten years ago...
of course, there wasn't much to compare it to.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by frontrow frontrow Profile at 8/26/13 3:39:35 PM
Not trying to hijack this thread, but I have found that the B&M hypercoasters are almost as temperamental as wooden coasters. Never thought very highly of Apollos Chariot, until we rode it last year. Our 3 rides were incredible. The best I ever had had on it. Diamondback is running the best that it ever has this year. On Easter Sunday Nitro was slow and bumpy. On Easter Monday Nitro was running much better. My list of favorite B&M hypers change every time I ride one again. I love the B&M hypers and try to marathon on them if the crowds allow it.
Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 8/26/13 8:55:42 PM
frontrow said:

Not trying to hijack this thread, but I have found that the B&M hypercoasters are almost as temperamental as wooden coasters. Never thought very highly of Apollos Chariot, until we rode it last year. Our 3 rides were incredible. The best I ever had had on it. Diamondback is running the best that it ever has this year. On Easter Sunday Nitro was slow and bumpy. On Easter Monday Nitro was running much better. My list of favorite B&M hypers change every time I ride one again. I love the B&M hypers and try to marathon on them if the crowds allow it.

I still think AC is the weakest of all the B & M hypers that I've ridden. It's not that I don't like it but compared to Nitro and Diamondback it's quite tame without as much airtime. I think the rides on them are very temperature dependent. They seem to slow down more than any other coaster when it's cool out. When I did the Nitro ERT it was a HUGE difference from the first ride in the morning to the last ride I had one hour later.

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by chitlins73 chitlins73 Profile at 8/26/13 8:58:06 PM
Hey Mike....it must have just been a bad day for you on Apollo's Chariot because yesterday it was running great!! It has a few different elements that Nitro does not have that I really enjoyed. they are so close on my rankings. I agree with Ken. These hypers are like woodies. You never know from day to day how well they are gonna run.
Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 8/26/13 9:00:24 PM
chitlins73 said:

Hey Mike....it must have just been a bad day for you on Apollo's Chariot because yesterday it was running great!! It has a few different elements that Nitro does not have that I really enjoyed. they are so close on my rankings. I agree with Ken. These hypers are like woodies. You never know from day to day how well they are gonna run.

We need Paul to chime in here - he's ridden both Nitro and AC a gazillion times so he is our best judge on this one.

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 8/27/13 12:35:49 PM
I'm not a fan of KD's Grizzly, but it's ok. It's 'smoother' than CI's Cyclone, but that's not really saying very much. But I admit I'm not a wood coaster fan. Coasters that have the MF trains have been more tolerable than those with the ptc trains.
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This year I got 10 rides on sheikra and Kumba and 12 on Montu (my first or was it 2nd 'triple double'*) and 2 cheetah. They weren't all consecutive and I took a small break b/w the Montu rides (wanted some night rides). The main thing was the park was still relatively packed, but still moving well enough for me to get 'that many' rides on all the steel coasters there and didn't need the express pass.

But for most rides at a time, Dominator at KD, got 13 rides in about 1hr with 8 consecutive rides without getting out of the seat. I could've done more, but wanted to get a few rides on I305 and the other coasters.

*at least 10 rides on 3 separate coasters in the same day (have to check regarding my 2009 BGW trip but i do believe i did get at least 10 rides on their big 3 as well).

Re: Coaster Marathoning by RobLec RobLec Profile at 8/27/13 1:46:12 PM
Cyclone_Phil said:
But for most rides at a time, Dominator at KD, got 13 rides in about 1hr with 8 consecutive rides without getting out of the seat.

I think our record has to be sixteen consecutive rides on Maverick in one hour, with the last eight being in the front seat of our own "private" train, as all the other riders had taken off for ERT on MF (looking back I would have preferred MF as well, but realized this was a once in a lifetime experience, and besides we had done sixteen on MF a year earlier).



This year I got 10 rides on sheikra and Kumba and 12 on Montu (my first or was it 2nd 'triple double'*) and 2 cheetah. They weren't all consecutive and I took a small break b/w the Montu rides (wanted some night rides). The main thing was the park was still relatively packed, but still moving well enough for me to get 'that many' rides on all the steel coasters there and didn't need the express pass.

Come to think of it, I actually would have much rather had 12 rides on Montu than sixteen on Maverick.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 8/27/13 7:32:02 PM
Well I've never been to CP, so can't really comment on Maverick, but hey, I don't blame you. Getting that many front row rides on a coaster that has packed lines from what I've read is something you can't pass up.
yeah, Montu is tops on my list. I just love it so much. I could ride that all day if I wanted to, but I can't pass up the multi rides on Kumba early in the day either. One day I'll have to get some night rides on Kumba.
That day for cheetah was also my first front row and night ride, so excellent day all around. But definitely helps to have glasses on as the bugs were out in full force that night. 'like bugs on a windshield'.

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Re: Coaster Marathoning by ktujon ktujon Profile at 8/27/13 8:24:16 PM
alpengeistno3 said:

Well, when I started this thread SO LONG AGO, I was referring to riding continuously during operating hours. Nonetheless, I did manage 19 rides on Skyrush for the taping of Insane Coaster Wars (I missed the 1st 2 rides since they would not allow anyone in the back row while the camera was set up for the official "taping" ride. The rest were all in the back, most on the right wing. You can see me in the light blue shirt in the clip they used over and over again of the turn into the final bunny hops.


I think that was my limit because I said if I got to 20, I was getting off. I was starting to turn awfully green by that 19th ride.

Paul

Just got back from Hershey today! I arrived at Skyrush at 1pm the line started near the top of the stairs the crew was mostly older ppl since the youngins were prob in school. The first couple rides took some time since the loading times seemed longer as I was getting baked out before entering the station. After a few rides I asked the ride op if I could stay on since no one was waiting in line and he asked the other ride op across from him who told me to walk around. As the first hour passed I got in 7 rides, by now I find it best to sit on the left wing so whenever I get off I can bolt for the exit and come around and actually make it in time for loading the same train I just got off (they will even reopen the gates to fill up empty rows sometimes). For my 10th ride I decided to go for the front row which was only a 3 train wait it was very enjoyable getting alot of the air in the face but still felt the force in my thighs on those hills either way. By rides 16,17,18 I was feeling the pain in the thighs since I was focused on continuing and not how I was sitting because I got stapled in and felt it! When 4pm hit the new crew of youngins came in I decided to ask again if I can reride and they let me! I decided to call it quits after that since every row was waiting didn't feel like walking around once again. I finished with 25 total, I could have kept going but I needed to be back for a fantasy draft that got moved to tonight instead of a future time! grrr the park was nice and empty today I wish I could have stayed til close! tho when I was walking out of the park I saw them run an empty skyrush train so something must have happened to that ride

Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 8/27/13 8:56:12 PM
ktujon said:

Just got back from Hershey today! I arrived at Skyrush at 1pm the line started near the top of the stairs the crew was mostly older ppl since the youngins were prob in school. The first couple rides took some time since the loading times seemed longer as I was getting baked out before entering the station. After a few rides I asked the ride op if I could stay on since no one was waiting in line and he asked the other ride op across from him who told me to walk around. As the first hour passed I got in 7 rides, by now I find it best to sit on the left wing so whenever I get off I can bolt for the exit and come around and actually make it in time for loading the same train I just got off (they will even reopen the gates to fill up empty rows sometimes). For my 10th ride I decided to go for the front row which was only a 3 train wait it was very enjoyable getting alot of the air in the face but still felt the force in my thighs on those hills either way. By rides 16,17,18 I was feeling the pain in the thighs since I was focused on continuing and not how I was sitting because I got stapled in and felt it! When 4pm hit the new crew of youngins came in I decided to ask again if I can reride and they let me! I decided to call it quits after that since every row was waiting didn't feel like walking around once again. I finished with 25 total, I could have kept going but I needed to be back for a fantasy draft that got moved to tonight instead of a future time! grrr the park was nice and empty today I wish I could have stayed til close! tho when I was walking out of the park I saw them run an empty skyrush train so something must have happened to that ride

You're insane. Let me know how that chiropractor's appointment goes. Any signs of circulation returning to your legs or are they still blue?

That's complete BS in not letting you just stay on when there is no one waiting - I would have thrown a hissy fit and if that didn't work go to a supervisor and bitched and moaned until they let me stay on. ;-)

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 8/27/13 9:16:53 PM
I agree about empty stations. In 2006 or 2007 the ride ops, at the canyon blaster at the adventure dome, wouldn't let me stay on with no one standing on my row. I had to run all the way around the overpass back to the station. I think I just made it for the coaster to just exit the station or just made it before the gates closed. It was a pita. I can understand moving if someone's in my row, but I think they should allow a person to stay if there's no one on their row. And if the train still has seats, do what Dollywood did (at least in 2006 when I was last there) to stay to the exit side and take an empty seat if there was any or wait for the next ride.

Kraken at sea world, they don't allow rerides, which is bs as they have empty rows for the 'platinum pass' riders, who are never there. Very rarely do I see the ride ops there allow riders to take those seats to move the lines more quickly.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by alpengeistno3 at 8/27/13 9:35:30 PM
Congratulations, Jon. You beat my record (the hard way, too, since I got to stay in my seat).

Don't get me started on empty rows! It is the only thing that ticks me off about Dorney and their "no rerides, EVER" rule. Even when Talon's station was completely empty on Talon, they made everyone get off just so they could cycle empty trains!!

And Jen, Nitro vs Apollo is like Drachen Fire vs Anaconda. No contest!! Apollo has some nice airtime moments on drops 1, 3, 5,6 and 9, but everything on Nitro is bigger. And there are no dead drops like the ones out of the curves on Apollo.

Paul

Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 8/27/13 9:43:39 PM
alpengeistno3 said:

And Jen, Nitro vs Apollo is like Drachen Fire vs Anaconda. No contest!! Apollo has some nice airtime moments on drops 1, 3, 5,6 and 9, but everything on Nitro is bigger. And there are no dead drops like the ones out of the curves on Apollo.

Paul

That's how I feel about those coasters as well but to show I'm not being biased I thought someone who frequents and likes both parks should chime in! Had 2 great Nitro rides last night - my seat was very "roomy" and the floating time we got was fantastic! And it was at sunset - BEST time to ride Nitro! :-)

Jen


SO pretty! :-)

Re: Coaster Marathoning by chitlins73 chitlins73 Profile at 8/27/13 9:54:29 PM
You guys are killing me...lol...Apollo's Chariot has some sick airtime in the back and more unique elements than Nitro has. I believe it is a really close race between the two. Those banked turns on AP are sweet and that last really long bunny hop at the end where they take the pic is awesome also!!
Re: Coaster Marathoning by alpengeistno3 at 8/27/13 10:32:05 PM
I can break it down for you, Dion.
1st drop: Apollo gets a nice running start from the "fake" drop.
Nitro is taller.
Winner: Even

2nd drop: Apollo drops into the shed, not very tall, limited air.
Nitro does that sideways twisting motion into a deep drop.
Winner: Nitro, no contest

3rd drop: Apollo does the twisting drop into the helix over the Rhine. Amazing air!
Nitro does a straight drop. Good air, but pretty straight.
Winner: Apollo

4th drop: Apollo drops out of the helix. It loses a lot of steam at the top, no air at all
Nitro drop out of the Hammerhead. Great air as it powers through the turn.
Winner: Nitro, no contest

5th drop: Apollo's drop off the block brake. Short drop, but very strong air due to the usually light brake
Nitro has an air packed drop on the way to the helix.
Winner: Apollo, slightly as long as the block brake is still light

6th drop: Apollo drops back to the Rhine. Taller than the drop off the block, full of air.
Nitro does another twisting drop similar to the 2nd drop into the helix. Lots of air as well.
Winner: Nitro for the unexpected twist at the top.

7th drop: Apollo does a dip behind the 1st drop to get to the other side. No air at all.
Nitro does its helix with black out level positive G's and a solid drop off the block brake
Winner: Nitro, no contest

8th drop: Apollo does a small 16ft hop over Roman Rapids. Good air, but it only 16 ft!!!
Nitro has another drop after the block brake. Solid air.
Winner: Nitro, again no contest

9th drop: Apollo does the long drop for the picture. About a second longer than you would think.
Nitro has another drop, a bit longer than 2 before it.
Winner: Apollo, that last drop is arguably the 2nd best of the ride.

10th drop (wait, Apollo is done)
Nitro has one more drop, largest of the final 4. Fantastic air.
Winner: Nitro, no contest.

By my score card, Nitro wins 6 -3, most by no contest. Don't even try comparing a night ride on Apollo to Nitro!

Paul

Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 8/27/13 11:08:17 PM
Paul: I have to say I'm a bit impressed...

NOTHING compares to Nitro's bunnies so I can't allow that AC win over any of the bunnies. Sorry. Last night I was saying it should be mandatory that every coaster built (don't care what type) should be required to have a succession of bunny hills before the end! Pure FUN (and airtime too!)!

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by RobLec RobLec Profile at 8/27/13 11:09:16 PM
Sounds like you got in some good rides. Montu is such a great ride. It has always been #1 for our entire family since the year it opened.

We've never been on Cheetah Hunt. Unfortunately when we were there last year the line was too long and the day was so hot that we just did Sheikra and Montu then left.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 8/27/13 11:12:20 PM
RobLec said:

Sounds like you got in some good rides. Montu is such a great ride. It has always been #1 for our entire family since the year it opened.


We've never been on Cheetah Hunt. Unfortunately when we were there last year the line was too long and the day was so hot that we just did Sheikra and Montu then left.

I have to get back down there especially for Sheikra - have to compare her to her brother (although I hear big brother wins). LOVE Montu as well - it was my favorite coaster in the park the last time I was there.

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 8/27/13 11:33:40 PM
I've taken quite a number of rides on both griffon and sheikra and i will say griffon is a better ride because of the 2nd immelman. But to me the open pool splashdown of sheikra makes it a nicer experience when standing from below. So aesthetically sheikra looks nicer. Montu and kumba are the best 1-2 punch they have. Oldies, but goodies. Almost every ride on montu people are still taken off guard by the last corkscrew before the final block.
RobLec said:

Sounds like you got in some good rides. Montu is such a great ride. It has always been #1 for our entire family since the year it opened.


We've never been on Cheetah Hunt. Unfortunately when we were there last year the line was too long and the day was so hot that we just did Sheikra and Montu then left.

Thanks! Yeah cheetah is definitely something that must be done early as the park opens (one of the rare times i actually go against my typical plans of working from one end and working my way back toward the front). The night ride was a bonus. I figured if the line was still open, may as well go in as everyone has to get off from the exit.
I so have to apologize for keep on pushing off my bgt tr from this year. Gonna have to work on it soon.

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Re: Coaster Marathoning by alpengeistno3 at 8/27/13 11:55:04 PM
GoYanks34 said:

Paul: I have to say I'm a bit impressed...


NOTHING compares to Nitro's bunnies so I can't allow that AC win over any of the bunnies. Sorry. Last night I was saying it should be mandatory that every coaster built (don't care what type) should be required to have a succession of bunny hills before the end! Pure FUN (and airtime too!)!

Jen

I was being "kind" by comparing Apollo's last drop to Nitro's next to last bunny. Really, it should be 2 to 1 since Apollo only has 9 drops to Nitro's 10. Apollo's last one is really good, but I'll take 2 "very good" over 1 really good any day!

Paul

Re: Coaster Marathoning by chitlins73 chitlins73 Profile at 8/28/13 6:54:01 PM
That was a fantastic breakdown Paul. I do have Nitro in front of Apollo's Chariot on my steel list. I guess what happens to me sometimes is after I have a great ride on a coaster and it is fresh in my mind, I tend to rate it higher than something I have not been on in awhile. I am sure Nitro is still better but now I need to ride Nitro at night again to remember the greatness!! I wish I could ride them back to back...lol...Regardless,they are both really good coasters and so much fun to ride over and over again!!
Re: Coaster Marathoning by Schrecken Schrecken Profile at 8/29/13 1:48:35 AM
ktujon said:

alpengeistno3 said:

Well, when I started this thread SO LONG AGO, I was referring to riding continuously during operating hours. Nonetheless, I did manage 19 rides on Skyrush for the taping of Insane Coaster Wars (I missed the 1st 2 rides since they would not allow anyone in the back row while the camera was set up for the official "taping" ride. The rest were all in the back, most on the right wing. You can see me in the light blue shirt in the clip they used over and over again of the turn into the final bunny hops.


I think that was my limit because I said if I got to 20, I was getting off. I was starting to turn awfully green by that 19th ride.

Paul

Just got back from Hershey today! I arrived at Skyrush at 1pm the line started near the top of the stairs the crew was mostly older ppl since the youngins were prob in school. The first couple rides took some time since the loading times seemed longer as I was getting baked out before entering the station. After a few rides I asked the ride op if I could stay on since no one was waiting in line and he asked the other ride op across from him who told me to walk around. As the first hour passed I got in 7 rides, by now I find it best to sit on the left wing so whenever I get off I can bolt for the exit and come around and actually make it in time for loading the same train I just got off (they will even reopen the gates to fill up empty rows sometimes). For my 10th ride I decided to go for the front row which was only a 3 train wait it was very enjoyable getting alot of the air in the face but still felt the force in my thighs on those hills either way. By rides 16,17,18 I was feeling the pain in the thighs since I was focused on continuing and not how I was sitting because I got stapled in and felt it! When 4pm hit the new crew of youngins came in I decided to ask again if I can reride and they let me! I decided to call it quits after that since every row was waiting didn't feel like walking around once again. I finished with 25 total, I could have kept going but I needed to be back for a fantasy draft that got moved to tonight instead of a future time! grrr the park was nice and empty today I wish I could have stayed til close! tho when I was walking out of the park I saw them run an empty skyrush train so something must have happened to that ride

Wow, I'm really jealous! I'm hoping to accomplish such a feat one weekend in September. Speaking of September, anyone know how weekends at HP are in Sept? I'm guessing that Sunday would probably be better than Saturday since people have to go to work the next day and kids have to go to school (it seems most parks are better on Sundays than Saturdays for that reason).


As for Nitro vs AC, I would have to agree that Nitro is the more potent of the two. Never done Diamondback, so I can't add that into my comparison. However, I still like AC and have gotten as many as 10 or more rides in a row on it.

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 8/30/13 6:25:51 PM
I really need to marathon nitro one day. I've never had issues with getting at least 8 or more rides on apollo's chariot, but nitro, i've only had 3 rides. I agree about that last drop on ac as one of the best because it is sorta unexpected or delivers a nice punch.
Re: Coaster Marathoning by ericthewanderer at 8/31/13 12:04:10 AM
I've been able to have "mini-marathons" at SFA over the years during regular operating hours on just about all the coasters.It helps if you get to SFA either real early(like at opening time)or about 2 hours before closing.
A couple of good examples:
-about 10 years ago getting a marathon on Roar on a dead rainy Sunday.Me and the other few people on that ride got like 10 rides that night!
-about 8 years ago I got a mini-marathon on Batwing during the last half-hour of operation that day.
Re: Coaster Marathoning by GoYanks34 GoYanks34 Profile at 8/31/13 11:21:50 AM
Cyclone_Phil said:

I really need to marathon nitro one day. I've never had issues with getting at least 8 or more rides on apollo's chariot, but nitro, i've only had 3 rides. I agree about that last drop on ac as one of the best because it is sorta unexpected or delivers a nice punch.

I'm not one for marathoning because I get bored easily and need to move on but the Nitro marathon was awesome. It's just such an easy coaster on the body, full of such relaxing and therapeutic airtime and I had a great person to shoot the breeze with that it didn't even feel like an hour had gone by. I highly recommend it! And if you can try and find an old timer to ride with who has great stories to tell about all their coaster experiences over the years. ;-)

Jen

Re: Coaster Marathoning by Cyclone_Phil Cyclone_Phil Profile at 8/31/13 11:39:27 AM
Depends on the coaster. I mean I think maybe ride 6 or 7 is when it starts getting boring for me, but I love Montu enough that I can't get bored on it. But I've max rode it 6 times in a row. I haven't done 10 in a row without some break in between. I did at least 10 in a row on Alpengeist mainly because I wasn't sure what the lines would be like later in the day and Griffon was down in the morning.

God willing, I am hoping to get a season pass for GAdv for next year so I can afford to take many rides on certain coasters and still not need the flash pass. I can't make guarantees on weekdays, but most likely it'd be a weekend. But I will try for at least one weekday trip if possible. 6 yrs away is too long.

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