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Cedar Point Rumor 2007

Cedar_Point_No_1

Posted:
8/28/05 at
6:27:41 PM

I Can't Remember the website I read this on, but it said from an "inside sorce" that the flying coaster idea is almost dead. What they said is another record breaking coaster. The coaster is rumored to be over 500 ft. tall!

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by tbolt92 at 8/28/05 7:57:55 PM

> I Can't Remember the website I read this on, but it said
> from an "inside sorce" that the flying coaster
> idea is almost dead. What they said is another record
> breaking coaster. The coaster is rumored to be over 500 ft.
> tall!
I heard that something may go where demon drop and some of the old games were located. Just a rumor though.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by SirWillow SirWillow Profile at 8/28/05 8:48:27 PM

As mentioned on other threads- no one knows yet, nothing has been announced, and there isn't nothing but speculation and rumors. For that, head over to Screamscape.com where you can have a lot of it.

Especially since this exact same thing has been discussed in several other threads already, including this one right down the same page:
http://www.ultimaterollercoaster.com/forums/cgi/forum1.cgi?read=162110

No reason to start a whole new thread when there is already one discussing it. :)

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Cedar_Point_No_1 at 8/28/05 9:07:29 PM

> I Can't Remember the website I read this on, but it said
> from an "inside sorce" that the flying coaster
> idea is almost dead. What they said is another record
> breaking coaster. The coaster is rumored to be over 500 ft.
> tall!
> I heard that something may go where demon drop and some of
> the old games were located. Just a rumor though.

I think they should get rid of Iron Dragon or Cedar Mine Creek Ride or Corkscrew.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by -Phenominal- at 8/29/05 3:03:13 PM

the owner of Cedar Point is just jealous because SFGAD took its thunder get over it you big baby if your gonna make another one tear down TTD

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by PCW_SkyRider PCW_SkyRider Profile at 8/29/05 3:32:02 PM

> the owner of Cedar Point is just jealous because SFGAD took
> its thunder get over it you big baby if your gonna make
> another one tear down TTD

Cedar Point's thunder isn't stolen. As far as I'm concerned it has barely been taken. KK and TTD are very similar with a few minor changes. KK is only a few feet higher, a few mph faster and has an airtime hill after the drop. That's just the positive diffs between the two coasters. However, I have been told that the OTSRs are very restricting compared to the T lap bar on TTD. This is a huge difference. I have been on TTD but not KK, but from what I have heard from friends and URC goers who have ridden both, they say that having the T lap bar made TTD better.

It doesn't matter if your coaster is the tallest and fastest coaster in the world. What matters is if it's fun, because your coaster could be record breaking, but still crap. That's why a lot of people prefer MF over TTD (not that TTD is crap, but not as good in my opinion). Dragster towers 110 feet over the Force, but does that make it better? No, because Millenium Force is more than 17 seconds of speed. It's many minutes of speed and airtime.

So Cedar Point has definatly not lost it's thunder. Sure, it's doesn't have the title of the highest and fastest coaster in the world anymore, but to me, that doesn't matter. A theme park should really focus on the coaster that pleases the crowd the most.

Stuart
(AMA GAD!)

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Millenium-Fan at 8/29/05 5:05:45 PM

skyrider's right. I think cp had the last laugh here. The kk is unreliable and now growing unpopular. Plus the ttd restraints are much more comfortable.

By the way the flying coaster idea sounds neat...

thrillseeker.com

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by -Phenominal- at 8/29/05 5:21:34 PM

yea i see your point but if Cedar Point makes a coaster thats 500 ft tall whats it gonna make TTD look like they should just keep it the way it is im not judging i havent been on either of them. what i meant was is that SFGAD stole the thunder of the tallest fastest coaster i never been to Cedar Point but ive been to SFGAD plenty of times

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by PCW_SkyRider PCW_SkyRider Profile at 8/29/05 8:47:57 PM

> skyrider's right. I think cp had the last laugh here. The
> kk is unreliable and now growing unpopular. Plus the ttd
> restraints are much more comfortable.

Well, TTD as I have heard is unreliable. Of course I don't think it compares to KK's downtime, but both do tend to break down often. I was very lucky to have ridden all of the intense roller coasters during my one visit to CP, except for Wicked Twister which was down. I heard someone saying that there is a lot of stress put on the towers in the areas where there are no supports and it has to be maintained every few...whatever...

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by jeffro jeffro Profile at 8/17/06 3:29:53 AM

> I Can't Remember the website I read this on, but it said
> from an "inside sorce" that the flying coaster
> idea is almost dead. What they said is another record
> breaking coaster. The coaster is rumored to be over 500 ft.
> tall!
> I heard that something may go where demon drop and some of
> the old games were located. Just a rumor though.

> I think they should get rid of Iron Dragon or Cedar Mine
> Creek Ride or Corkscrew.
i dont think they will get rid of them rides anytime soon but this websites terminology clues me in about the new one they are building. the chochoo train that goes around the park takes you around past the millenium force as you probably already know and there are a few signs there and one says (ya all up for some serious sidewinding?) this website will tell you in better terminology than i can. go to the terminology part. it says sidewinding is a 90 degree rotation in a inversion.(up side down) im curious about that one. i guess ill find out soon enough though. you can bet it will break another record for sure. cedar point always does. hell every amusement park does.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 8/17/06 1:14:51 PM

> I think they should get rid of Iron Dragon or Cedar Mine
> Creek Ride or Corkscrew.

Remember, everyone doesn't enjoy plummeting 300 ft on MF. There's a reason why parks have milder coasters. IMO I don't think Iron Dragon is as bad as people say. Don't expect to get blown away on swinging suspended coasters. I went on a CP trip last year, and my mom and rest of us, went on Cedar Creek Mine Ride, and she enjoyed it. As for Corkscrew, I keep telling people, you don't mess with a classic coaster. There are plenty of people who still enjoys this ride, and I really enjoy it. I think it's the most perfectly placed coaster I been on. The day that they get rid of Corkscrew at CP, hell will freeze over.
IMO the CP coaster that should go is Disaster Transport, which been a disaster since it opened in the building, from it's outdoor stint as Avalanche Run. IMO I think they should get rid of DT, keep the building and put another coaster inside, maybe a classic wild mouse with hairpin turns, or a spinning wild mouse.

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Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Ethan Ethan Profile at 8/17/06 5:05:40 PM

No, they should just modify DT. IMO, It's always been a fun ride, just never worth the wait. It's so short! They need to make three times as long. CP will never get rid of one of their coasters now, because they want to keep a good count going. But, they could make a coaster better.

Also, I think KK did steel some thunder. I saw a clip from some show (maybe Supercoasters) that talked about how daring and innovative KK is. It made me steamed (I'm not sure if that's how you spell that, but I'm really confused now). But CP should just modify TTD a bit more so it beats out KK. Now that would be funny!

I like TTD better than MF 'cause it's just so thrilling. It's like nothing else(almost). MF has almost no new elements(not to take anything away from it). In fact, I think I like Magnum better than MF. Not sure though. I don't know why people talk down at it(not that all people do). That's all I got to say right now.

-Ethan-

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Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by manngo at 8/17/06 7:03:46 PM

> I Can't Remember the website I read this on, but it said
> from an "inside sorce" that the flying coaster
> idea is almost dead. What they said is another record
> breaking coaster. The coaster is rumored to be over 500 ft.
> tall!
Well i just came back from CP just yesterday and I can safely say that the loation of the new rollercoaster is at the old site of the Whitewater Landing (in frontier town), yes they tore it down, *sigh*. The design of the track is that triangle style of track (no clue what its called).The color of the track is red and the supports are a tannish color.And I really think its gonna be a record breaker because along the wooden fence around the enormous construction site is a sign that reads "a change is a commin'".

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Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Shaft_STL Shaft_STL Profile at 8/17/06 7:14:32 PM

Thanks for the news flash.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Katie Katie Profile at 8/17/06 7:54:32 PM

Wow...thanks for the information. And I thought it was just a rumor that they tore out WWL landing last year. DUH ME!

I think a brain fart just happened, and it wasn't me.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by deeturnerjr at 8/17/06 8:29:59 PM

Obviously some people just dont bother to read the whole post (or other posts in this forum) before they regurgitate the same information that has been posted OVER and OVER!

DEE

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 8/17/06 9:19:28 PM

> Thanks for the news flash.

That's some of Shaft's classic cutting edge sarcasm. LOL.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 8/17/06 9:29:02 PM

> Wow...thanks for the information. And I thought it was just
> a rumor that they tore out WWL landing last year. DUH ME!

> I think a brain fart just happened, and it wasn't me.

That's some of Katie's classic cutting edge sarcasm. LOL.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Jwood at 8/18/06 4:02:59 PM

I don't even think it will be a hyper or even a Flyer. I've been noticing that alot of the really innovative ideas are coming from rides like Hydra, Storm Runner, and Hades. So, Here's a Pic from a site I am registered in, and I'm thinking they might go for Inversions, the most ever, or most G-forces of some kind.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/topthrilldragster2k3/untitled.jpg

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Ardale at 8/21/06 11:12:53 PM

I love Cedar Point and knowing someone who has worked there for a while, she told me last year about this coaster that will be 500ft or higher! Cedar Point is all about being number one! There going for records so its kind of obvious if you really think about it! Look at the structure, if you keep up with coasters then you can see its a high speed track just like millenium! I cant stand when you people say there crazy for building this stuff! Engineers and design specialists put years of planning into this stuff so all I can say is watch for the press and be surprised for 07! Later Dan

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Ardale at 8/21/06 11:17:46 PM

Pcw Skyrider...I like your opinions! Nice posts!

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Katie Katie Profile at 8/22/06 6:25:57 AM

> I love Cedar Point and knowing someone who has worked there
> for a while, she told me last year about this coaster that
> will be 500ft or higher! Cedar Point is all about being
> number one! There going for records so its kind of obvious
> if you really think about it! Look at the structure, if you
> keep up with coasters then you can see its a high speed
> track just like millenium! I cant stand when you people say
> there crazy for building this stuff! Engineers and design
> specialists put years of planning into this stuff so all I
> can say is watch for the press and be surprised for 07!
> Later Dan

Do you know how much a 500 foot coaster would cost? Just because your friend works at Cedar Point doesn't mean they know jack crap about what the park is building. I bet anything your friend is a ride-operator, right? Let me tell you what, and no offense to others out there...Ride ops think they know it all. And they will tell you whatever you want to hear until you shut up. Believe me I know this as fact.

So until 500 feet shows up, which the footers poured doesn't suggest, I will wait for pigs to have lips.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Shaft_STL Shaft_STL Profile at 8/22/06 11:23:34 AM

Hey Dan...

Your friend is wrong. That is all.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Ethan Ethan Profile at 8/22/06 1:52:15 PM

And it isn't just the cost. I mean CP has built some pretty expensive stuff and they're still running strong. Cost isn't the problem. It's size. I've seen the construction site and it isn't nearly large enough for a 500 foot tall coaster. I love CP, but height and speed records aren't all they got.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Engineerdude Engineerdude Profile at 8/24/06 6:06:06 PM

Now that we know from photos that this is going to be a LIM launch coaster and the first inversion was installed. What is the current fastest, tallest, LIM launch coaster out there with inversions? Thats my bet as new bigger footings has been spotted being poured.

Ugh,,,, CP does what it does best.. Teases us.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Engineerdude Engineerdude Profile at 8/24/06 6:42:57 PM

OK i'm brainstorming again.

Look at the photos of Superman Escape built at Warner Bros. Movie World Australia in 2005.

http://www.coaster-net.com/ridegallery...

Thou nothing tall has gone up yet at CP, thats not to say they are hiding the biggest secrets yet to come and go up. (as i cross my fingers)

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by googleplex616 googleplex616 Profile at 8/24/06 8:57:17 PM

> Now that we know from photos that this is going to be a LIM
> launch coaster and the first inversion was installed. What
> is the current fastest, tallest, LIM launch coaster out
> there with inversions? Thats my bet as new bigger footings
> has been spotted being poured.

Or what about it also breaking the tallest inversion record. Isn't that held by Sky Wheel(Skyline Park) and X-Coaster(Magic Springs & Crystal Falls) at about 150 feet. That wouldn't be out of reach. How about it also breaking the record for being the longest launch coaster (Kingda Ka is the longest at just over 3118 ft). So It would break the record for being the longest launch coaster and the tallest inversion coaster.

Oh I can't wait to find out for sure.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Ethan Ethan Profile at 8/25/06 2:30:35 PM

Well, the tallest inversion coaster will be Griffon at 205 feet if those are the current tallest. So they will need to go higher than that (still a possibility). Also, are you sure Kingda Ka is the longest of it's kind. What about Xcelerator and Storm Runner, and any other launch coaster with more than 2 elements?

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Shaft_STL Shaft_STL Profile at 8/25/06 3:04:40 PM

> Well, the tallest inversion coaster will be Griffon at 205
> feet if those are the current tallest.

Yep, this is true. Another technicality involved is the highest *inversion* itself, which is currently X Coaster and Sky Wheel. Who knows, but I'm sure they'll break some record.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Ethan Ethan Profile at 8/25/06 3:59:30 PM

Hey, even if they don't break a record within the coaster, they'll beat the most coasters, most rides, and most track in one park record... again.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by bankteller bankteller Profile at 8/25/06 4:07:28 PM

The new roller coaster at Cedar Point is an Intamin LIM launched coaster with three inversions. The CP fanboys are going to be really disappointed with the announcement. It's more of a family thrill ride than anything spectacular. Record breaking... far from it. No special trains either, so don't buy into those drawings that are being passed around. It's nothing more than a sit down looper with a LIM launch.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by daigo2427 at 8/25/06 4:31:12 PM

> The new roller coaster at Cedar Point is an Intamin LIM
> launched coaster with three inversions. The CP fanboys are
> going to be really disappointed with the announcement. It's
> more of a family thrill ride than anything spectacular.
> Record breaking... far from it. No special trains either,
> so don't buy into those drawings that are being passed
> around. It's nothing more than a sit down looper with a LIM
> launch.
>
Where do you get your information from. I Still Stuck on the fact that this rollercoaster is gonna break records of some sort. You can't honestly think that CP is gonna build a coaster that is not going to break a record. And with the signs that they have posted all around the construction Site just leads me to that belief more and more.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Ethan Ethan Profile at 8/25/06 5:19:21 PM

Bank Teller,
I'm not so sure about that. I mean why would someone make a LIM launched coaster with inversions (whatever the amount may be) for families. That doesn't add up. Even if this were true (which I'm not sure about), it's still sounds thrilling to me. Maybe they could go for a LIM longest record still. If it's seriously twisted. Well, if it is true, I be happier about going to Geauga Lake next year instead of CP, since I went there this year.
-Ethan-
P.S. Read my trip report. Either on this forum or in my profile.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Overbanked Overbanked Profile at 8/25/06 6:35:11 PM

> The new roller coaster at Cedar Point is an Intamin LIM
> launched coaster with three inversions. The CP fanboys are
> going to be really disappointed with the announcement. It's
> more of a family thrill ride than anything spectacular.
> Record breaking... far from it. No special trains either,
> so don't buy into those drawings that are being passed
> around. It's nothing more than a sit down looper with a LIM
> launch.

^^That's very far fetched IMO. Even if CP do built it (which I strongly doubt) I wouldn't classify it as a family coaster. I never heard of a LIM launched family coaster, with inversions. CP ain't going out like a punk, they are gonna make a coaster way more considerable than a sit-down three-looper. None of the other CP newer steelies are that bland, so I don't see a reason why this one should be.

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Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Katie Katie Profile at 8/25/06 6:53:39 PM

I have been told from friends saying it won't be a wingwalker, due to the fact that its really tight inversions and it just doesn't fit.

I still stick by my 12 inversions colossus theory. I think we should hear an announcement by mid-september.

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Great_Ump Great_Ump Profile at 8/25/06 7:18:36 PM

I dont care what it is, or how many inversions it will be.

Bottom Line: Cedar Point builds quality coasters and rides.

What I want to know is WHY is so much of this coaster already completed when they're still about eights months from opening. IMO, CP has something special in the works for this coaster that no one has seen yet. Something that they're saving for the announcement.

Although I don't follow CP as closely as some may, I cannot remember the last time an announcement of theirs has come so late in the season.

Joe
Great_Ump

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Intamatt at 8/27/06 10:53:01 AM

Seems to be an interesting element already in place, with the the corkscrew, 180 degree bank "u-turn" into another corkscrew.

I see the seagulls have migrated there also, as seen in this pic:

http://www.pointbuzz.com/Gallery.aspx?i=5285

Dang! Already marking their territory.

Matt

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Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Katie Katie Profile at 8/27/06 3:13:36 PM

>
> Although I don't follow CP as closely as some may, I cannot
> remember the last time an announcement of theirs has come
> so late in the season.

Didn't they announce TTD in like February?

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by I-Heart-Cedar-Point at 9/1/06 9:16:07 PM

> I Can't Remember the website I read this on, but it said
> from an "inside sorce" that the flying coaster
> idea is almost dead. What they said is another record
> breaking coaster. The coaster is rumored to be over 500 ft.
> tall!

That would be awesome, i check this web site every-day now... If you can find out where you heard that.. It would be great. But now talking about the Idea..I was at Cedar Point recently, and I saw a huge pole next to The Mean Streak.. It was sweet, i would say it was at LEAST 100 feet if not more, so lets just hope.

Another Thing I did notice was that there were like HUNDEREDS, MAYBE EVEN thousands of red track peices out front. This is efiinetly gonna be a good-leinthed roller coaster, with its loops now and all.

The very last thing was that, on Millenium Fore Island there was a mini construction area with a couple of poles, idk if it was storage or what, but i deffinetly know that when they announce the ride on the 9th, i will pee my pants.. LO freak L

I can't wait!!!

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by Shaft_STL Shaft_STL Profile at 9/1/06 9:24:12 PM

That rumor was posted almost a year ago. Check the other thread and you'll see what's going on.

golden gate sway

Re: Cedar Point Rumor 2007 by I-Heart-Cedar-Point at 9/1/06 9:27:45 PM

WOW!! I am so excited for the 07 year!!! And didn't they start TTD in like October or November... All I know is that I was there for Halloweekends the year before TTD, and there was notheing yet, except for some bulldozers and 1 small crane. BUT! They started this in MAY!!!!!! that means that it will be a HIGH - maitnence coaster, which starts the possiblilty of a 400, 600, 700 + roller coaster, although i dought anything over 600 yet. I mean 600 you wont be able see at those heigts, PLUS look at Millenium, it would be DOUBLE that if it were 600!!!! and if it were 600, i heard that it would be approx. 190mph, WOW! Plu sorry about a bit of a mix up when i said it started in May, They started dmolishing White Water Landing, then like right before the end of June, it was done and they started PROJECT 2007! hell ya!!!

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