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Fantasy Blackpool League

Graeme Graeme Profile

Posted:
3/17/00 at
10:13:01 AM

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What would you do with Blackpool Pleasure Beach if it were up to you? They don't have much space left. Let's face it, The Big One's drops suffered from having to be built over buildings.

I would:

Keep all five woodies
Keep all the classic dark rides (especially that suspended one - I enjoyed that, despite the grumpy operator!)
Be prepared to relocate: Revolution, Avalanche (and that car ride), Space Invader, Log Flume, Water Slide, Steeplechase and any flat rides.
Ask B&M to build me a fantastic Floorless coaster.

I know this is harsh, but it's the dilemma of wanting to preserve classics, but also wanting the best modern coasters. You have to get rid of the intermediates. Don't get me wrong - I'd love a park as good as BPB near me.

Graeme.

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Mr Aitch at 3/17/00 7:26:30 PM

> What would you do with Blackpool Pleasure
> Beach if it were up to you? They don't have
> much space left. Let's face it, The Big
> One's drops suffered from having to be built
> over buildings. I would: Keep all five
> woodies Keep all the classic dark rides
> (especially that suspended one - I enjoyed
> that, despite the grumpy operator!) Be
> prepared to relocate: Revolution, Avalanche
> (and that car ride), Space Invader, Log
> Flume, Water Slide, Steeplechase and any
> flat rides. Ask B&M to build me a fantastic
> Floorless coaster. I know this is harsh,
> but it's the dilemma of wanting to preserve
> classics, but also wanting the best modern
> coasters. You have to get rid of the
> intermediates. Don't get me wrong - I'd love
> a park as good as BPB near me. Graeme.

OR ... buy up ALL the buildings alongside the north & east sides of the park ,level the lot & build carparks in their place ,then re-shuffle your existing attractions to make room for something WICKED !!! (don't think it'll be a B&M though 'cos I don't think Mr Thompson likes them )
:(

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Cal at 3/20/00 6:42:17 AM

OR ... buy up ALL the buildings alongside the
> north & east sides of the park ,level
> the lot & build carparks in their place
> ,then re-shuffle your existing attractions
> to make room for something WICKED !!! (don't
> think it'll be a B&M though 'cos I don't
> think Mr Thompson likes them ) :(

I'm fond of most of the rides there, so I really wouldn't do all that much. I would turn the Gold Mine into a scary haunted mine with better effects and upgrade it to an A or B ticket (much like they've done with Trauma Towers), I'd replace the Superbowl bumper cars (I hate bumper cars!) with a turbo drop or gyrodrop. I would probably remove the log flume - Valhalla is a flume and the existing log flume is something I never ride because it's either too cold or the water is flithy. Same goes for the bumper boats. I'd but a great coaster in there instead - something with a high throughput.
I would probably replace the Big One with a more thrilling hypercoaster.
I could also make more room by getting rid of the ice rink (sorry Hot Ice fans) but I'd probably only do that if I could be sure the replacement ride could generate more income than the show.

Cal

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Nemedave at 3/20/00 7:15:02 AM

Firstly I'd remove all of the water rides, except Valhalla. Secondly the Ice Rink would go. Thirdly, Revolution and that awful Spinning Mouse Ride would fine their way to either a scrapyard or to whoever would buy them. With the proceeds and a little hard earned cash, I'd build the Longest woodie ever - using multiple lift hills to keep the structure below 150ft and the speed high. And before you slate me for using multiple lifts - It's done with good intentions - I'm severely paranoid of the thought of SOB - though I can't wait for MF.

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Cal at 3/20/00 11:54:35 AM

Well the spinning mouse (and everything else on the pier) doesn't belong to the Pleasure Beach, so it's neither here nor there whether it goes or not. I believe it is going, mind you. I heard the pier was getting a SCAD tower instead, which is an insane attraction that is basically a bungee jump but without the bungee (you just fall from a great height into a soft net-type device). Sounds nuts to me but hey, if it turns up, I have to try it.

Cal

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Graeme Graeme Profile at 3/20/00 4:21:55 PM

More wood at Blackpool? Oh man!
Why are you worried about SOB? I thought it was only PKI's fourth woodie (Beast, Beastie, Racer, SOB).
It would be nice if BPB could accomodate Texas Tornado, wouldn't it? It would be more welcome at Southport, but it would cement BPB's woodie record!

> Firstly I'd remove all of the water rides,
> except Valhalla. Secondly the Ice Rink would
> go. Thirdly, Revolution and that awful
> Spinning Mouse Ride would fine their way to
> either a scrapyard or to whoever would buy
> them. With the proceeds and a little hard
> earned cash, I'd build the Longest woodie
> ever - using multiple lift hills to keep the
> structure below 150ft and the speed high.
> And before you slate me for using multiple
> lifts - It's done with good intentions - I'm
> severely paranoid of the thought of SOB -
> though I can't wait for MF.

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Graeme Graeme Profile at 3/20/00 4:29:07 PM

It would be a shame if they don't get a B&M sometime, as they must be one of the few UK parks that could afford/get planning for something like Dragon Khan (or a Floorless of the same size).

OR ... buy up ALL the buildings alongside the
> north & east sides of the park ,level
> the lot & build carparks in their place
> ,then re-shuffle your existing attractions
> to make room for something WICKED !!! (don't
> think it'll be a B&M though 'cos I don't
> think Mr Thompson likes them ) :(

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Graeme Graeme Profile at 3/21/00 10:51:08 AM

Yes, I hate bumper cars. They're always popular though aren't they?
I have mixed feelings about The Big One. It needs bigger, steeper drops (apart from the 1st one). Having said that, I think it became a classic the day it opened.
As for Gold Mine, I prefer non-scary dark rides. My favourite was The 5th Dimension. Heck, if Valhalla lives up to the hype, it will be terrifying enough (fire, explosions, lightning bolts)!

> I'm fond of most of the rides there, so
> I really wouldn't do all that much. I would
> turn the Gold Mine into a scary haunted mine
> with better effects and upgrade it to an A
> or B ticket (much like they've done with
> Trauma Towers), I'd replace the Superbowl
> bumper cars (I hate bumper cars!) with a
> turbo drop or gyrodrop. I would probably
> remove the log flume - Valhalla is a flume
> and the existing log flume is something I
> never ride because it's either too cold or
> the water is flithy. Same goes for the
> bumper boats. I'd but a great coaster in
> there instead - something with a high
> throughput. I would probably replace the
> Big One with a more thrilling hypercoaster.
> I could also make more room by getting rid
> of the ice rink (sorry Hot Ice fans) but I'd
> probably only do that if I could be sure the
> replacement ride could generate more income > than the show. Cal

Re: South Pier by Graeme Graeme Profile at 3/21/00 10:57:05 AM

Though I quite like the Mouse, it does seem daft having a ride pier opposite one of the biggest seaside amusement parks in Europe! Bungee type "rides" make a lot of sense.

> Well the spinning mouse (and everything else
> on the pier) doesn't belong to the Pleasure
> Beach, so it's neither here nor there
> whether it goes or not. I believe it is
> going, mind you. I heard the pier was
> getting a SCAD tower instead, which is an
> insane attraction that is basically a bungee
> jump but without the bungee (you just fall
> from a great height into a soft net-type
> device). Sounds nuts to me but hey, if it
> turns up, I have to try it. Cal

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Cal at 3/22/00 6:00:38 AM

Oh god, I remember the 5th Dimension - I thought it was awful!
Yes, I do have a lot of affection for the Big One, but it's a maintenance nightmare and let's face it, the ride's over after the first drop. Big One mk II could follow a similar layout, but with steeper drops (as you rightly suggest) and some airtime-packed bunnyhops. Of course that's just a pipe dream...

Cal

Re: Big One/5th Dimension by Graeme Graeme Profile at 3/22/00 7:58:24 AM

I went on The 5th Dimension with some friends after telling them it was brilliant. You can imagine how popular I was after that! I still think it's better when a ride shows you interesting things, rather than try to scare you. I think Terrortomb is rubbish, because it just tries to make you jump. Not my cup of tea, but I'm a bit of a wuss.

I agree with you about The Big One. Redesigns are never worth it for the park involved, as it wouldn't generate the same marketing buzz. They've made their bed, if you know what I mean. Never mind - people leave the ride happy, which is the main thing. Anyway, the first drop really is massive!

Re: Big One/5th Dimension by Cal at 3/29/00 4:46:36 AM

I thought Terror Tomb was rubbish the first time I did it because I was expecting it to scare me and it didn't. But it's kind of grown on me and I've started to enjoy its cheesy themeing. I did enjoy taking my snake-phobic boyfriend on there and watching him jump when the snakes popped up!

Cal

Re: Terrortomb by Graeme Graeme Profile at 3/29/00 6:00:37 AM

I like the boulder, the jackal and the rotating tunnel. None of the models scared me, but a shadow made me jump the 2nd time I went on it! Which dark rides in this country are scary?

Does your boyfriend have a hat and whip?

> I thought Terror Tomb was rubbish the first
> time I did it because I was expecting it to
> scare me and it didn't. But it's kind of
> grown on me and I've started to enjoy its
> cheesy themeing. I did enjoy taking my
> snake-phobic boyfriend on there and watching
> him jump when the snakes popped up! Cal

Re: Terrortomb by Cal at 3/31/00 4:32:22 AM

> I like the boulder, the jackal and the
> rotating tunnel. None of the models scared
> me, but a shadow made me jump the 2nd time I
> went on it! Which dark rides in this country
> are scary? Does your boyfriend have a hat
> and whip?

Nah, I'm the only Jones in my household!
I'm not easily scared, I have to say, so I haven't been scared by a dark ride since I was a kid. Even Pasaje del Terror didn't bother me, although I do enjoy it and have done it several times.

Cal

Re: dark rides by Graeme Graeme Profile at 3/31/00 7:24:56 AM

Don't pay for Pasaje del Terror! Simply invite a few friends over, turn off the lights and get them to jump out at you!

Have you seen what they are building on Clacton Pier? It looks very much like a ghost train to me. The one at Southend looks quirky as well.

Nah, I'm the only Jones in my household! I'm
> not easily scared, I have to say, so I
> haven't been scared by a dark ride since I
> was a kid. Even Pasaje del Terror didn't
> bother me, although I do enjoy it and have
> done it several times. Cal

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by d n s u at 3/31/00 8:31:05 AM

> I'd get rid of the North Car Park and use it for another woodie (or even bring back the Reel) I'd rip up that area they call the Xtreme zone opposite to The Greatest Show on Earth and plonk in a museum dedicated to all things coasters.
Next rip up the Gold Mine or turn it into some sort of dark Rock n' Roller Coaster type thing and finally get rid of that Willy Wurst eating hut that obscures my view of The Wild Mouse. PS. those wrist bands should be scrapped..the queues seem to be getting bigger..even for the Alice Ride!

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Greg P at 4/5/00 5:03:04 PM

> What would you do with Blackpool Pleasure
> Beach if it were up to you? They don't have
> much space left. Let's face it, The Big
> One's drops suffered from having to be built
> over buildings. I would: Keep all five
> woodies Keep all the classic dark rides
> (especially that suspended one - I enjoyed
> that, despite the grumpy operator!) Be
> prepared to relocate: Revolution, Avalanche
> (and that car ride), Space Invader, Log
> Flume, Water Slide, Steeplechase and any
> flat rides. Ask B&M to build me a fantastic
> Floorless coaster. I know this is harsh,
> but it's the dilemma of wanting to preserve
> classics, but also wanting the best modern
> coasters. You have to get rid of the
> intermediates. Don't get me wrong - I'd love
> a park as good as BPB near me. Graeme.

Sorry Graeme, but the Greatest Show has now gone.

It was badly suffering from mechanical problems and lack of riders. The building will now be converted into a Burger King!

Greg

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Graeme Graeme Profile at 4/6/00 7:00:22 AM

Noooooo! Never mind - I like Burger King!

Sorry Graeme, but the Greatest Show has now
> gone. It was badly suffering from
> mechanical problems and lack of riders. The
> building will now be converted into a Burger
> King! Greg

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Fraser Fraser Profile at 4/30/00 7:07:12 AM

> Oh god, I remember the 5th Dimension - I
> thought it was awful! Yes, I do have a lot
> of affection for the Big One, but it's a
> maintenance nightmare and let's face it, the
> ride's over after the first drop. Big One mk
> II could follow a similar layout, but with
> steeper drops (as you rightly suggest) and
> some airtime-packed bunnyhops. Of course
> that's just a pipe dream... Cal

Scrap The Space Invader because it's pants - it's not dark enough, and it's not fast enough. The name is horribly outdated, and the building obscures the view of that beautiful Rollercoaster.
And BRING BACK THE REEL!!!! I went on it way back in the seventies (I was very young!!!) and I remember it being the most out of control thing ever. Lose the Funhouse thingy (it's never been the same since the old one burnt down) and build a flying coaster in it's place extending out over the car park.

Re: Fantasy Blackpool League by Graeme Graeme Profile at 5/15/00 4:42:18 PM

After all this time, I have to say, that Revolution and Space Invader are the only coasters I really would scrap.

The latter does provide a tunnel for Zipper Dipper, but yes, I would rather get a good view of Roller Coaster.

By the way, I didn't realise they had a new Fun House. Where is it?

Graeme.

Scrap The Space Invader because it's pants - it's not
> dark enough, and it's not fast enough. The name
> is horribly outdated, and the building obscures
> the view of that beautiful Rollercoaster. And
> BRING BACK THE REEL!!!! I went on it way back in
> the seventies (I was very young!!!) and I
> remember it being the most out of control thing
> ever. Lose the Funhouse thingy (it's never been
> the same since the old one burnt down) and build
> a flying coaster in it's place extending out over
> the car park.